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This is my take on a few things,

1. Tony P , had to be signed of the qouta list , because we had to many over sea,s players. so sumone had to go, not fair on tony i know.

2. Kevin Locke, Has never been fully fit since he has arrived last season, proved it again over the weekend he is out for the rest of the season, so the choice was made to get rid and save some money, cant blame the doc to be honest, I just wish kevin had been fully fit when he arrived , He could of set the superleague alight.

3. Rangi Chase, At leeds, yes he was on the pitch warming up, but to me he didnt seem to put much effort into the warm up. Dont forget he has been out for 2 weeks injured, we were not going to beat leeds,( though i would of liked to of seen a better performance from all players). Just maybe Ian Watson did not want to risk Rangi getting injured again when we have a match on sunday that we can win and must win, and he thought keeping Rangi out for another week would aid his recovery, plus after the last two wins without him it would of been a hard choice to drop sumone to bring a player who is not match fit into a hard game, ( we need to bring back the a team so injured players can become match fit, but that is for the RFL to decide).

4. As for players not being payed, I cant comment, but if a player is not getting paid, why would other players sign 2 year contracts, im sure they talk to each other and if Fred is not being paid, why would Tom sign a 2 year contract, that is all i will say on that matter.

That is my take on some of what is going on at Salford.

Some of you say you might not watch us next year etc, Like me you are all die hard Salford fans , and where ever we are next season you like me will be there, after 53 years of ups and downs, i will still watch them.

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Quote: Michigan red "I concur with are kyd.'"


Surely you don't really mean that, I know all the poop flying round is disconcerting but come one we've been on worse a worse place than this. We don't even know what's going on, not trying to say all is rosey but let's not give in yet eh? I don't think there would be half as much negativity if it wasn't for McDermotts little rant. I'm not saying he is wrong by the way, I just don't know what to beleive, but I'm going be around whatever.

Let's beat widnes on Sunday and move on from there!

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What NottsTiger has stated is correct. Other clubs do it I'm sure, but Salford have tried to do it a bit different and it's added to their problems. You need to look at who has put together the contracts of players like PT, Locke, Chase and Hock over the last couple of years. If you look at the finer detail it's easy to spot what has happened.

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Salary cap - you're havin a laugh.:



Quote: Tigerade "What NottsTiger has stated is correct. Other clubs do it I'm sure, but Salford have tried to do it a bit different and it's added to their problems. You need to look at who has put together the contracts of players like PT, Locke, Chase and Hock over the last couple of years. If you look at the finer detail it's easy to spot what has happened.'"


You've had access to the 'finer detail' in the 6 hours since you posted this?

Quote: Tigerade "You might be starting the middle 8's with a minus in the points column if this is true.'"


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This thread is hilarious. The nonsense that people make up sometimes is beyond belief.

There is no way of counting MOM bonuses outside the cap.

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Quote: Red_C "This thread is hilarious. The nonsense that people make up sometimes is beyond belief.

There is no way of counting MOM bonuses outside the cap.'"


You have read rlhttps://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/interactive_operational_rules?section then?

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Sadly, no.

I didn't make my point very well. What I mean is that there is no way Salford would leave players out, due to them having supposed 'mom or appearance bonuses' that would take them over the cap.

People assume that the RFL look into these matters in a much finer detail than they actually do.

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Quote: Red_C "Sadly, no.

I didn't make my point very well. What I mean is that there is no way Salford would leave players out, due to them having supposed 'mom or appearance bonuses' that would take them over the cap.

People assume that the RFL look into these matters in a much finer detail than they actually do.'"

Something like appearance bonuses are very easy to calculate though aren't they. All the players contracts are lodged with the RFL upon signing and then the contract is signed off by the RFL as to whether it fits within the clubs salary cap. It isn't difficult to count how many games a player has played in and then add on whatever it says in his contract he'll get.

There might be ways round the cap (not as many as people think without getting into potentially deep do do) but just hoping the RFL can't count isn't one of them. Nigel Wood's fingers may be podgy but he can still use them to count with.

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One of the more interesting clauses is this one:

5.4.3 A player moving between Super League clubs during the regular season cannot have a lower SCV at his new club than what he had at the old one, regardless of what his new contract states.

Which by my reading means that Kevin Locke's Salary Cap Value at Wakefield must be the same as it was at Salford - allegedly one of, if not the, highest in the league!

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Quote: "Something like appearance bonuses are very easy to calculate though aren't they. All the players contracts are lodged with the RFL upon signing and then the contract is signed off by the RFL as to whether it fits within the clubs salary cap. It isn't difficult to count how many games a player has played in and then add on whatever it says in his contract he'll get. '"


This is true. However, the RFL has considerably less ability than people think, to actually access any records of payments to players.

The salary cap to all intents and purposes is a gentleman's agreement, there is no real way of enforcing it.

Quote: "There might be ways round the cap (not as many as people think without getting into potentially deep do do) but just hoping the RFL can't count isn't one of them. Nigel Wood's fingers may be podgy but he can still use them to count with.'"


Nigel Wood has nothing to do with the salary cap, he has bigger fish to fry, literally icon_wink.gif

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Quote: BartonFlyer "One of the more interesting clauses is this one

Suppose it depends how you define "moved between" though - we released him so he was technically a free agent when Wakey picked him up.

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