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| Quote: Mr James ROwley "
MY RATINGS FOR LAST NIGHTS GAME.
Wilshere - 7/10
Henry - 6/10
Turner - 5/10
Ratchford - 7/10
McGilvray - 8/10
Smith - 1/10
Myler - 4/10
Cashmere - 7/10
Alker - 8/10
Stapleton - 7/10
Adamson 7/10
Sidlow, - 8/10
Swain - 8/10
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Littler - 6/10
Leuluai - 3/10
Paul - 3/10
Jewitt - 6/10
leuluai 3/10 i thought he had good game made some good yards at times.
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| Quote: salfordtillidie88 "leuluai 3/10 i thought he had good game made some good yards at times.'"
Got bulldozered over for a very easy try by Cas though in the second half just after our second try. Going forward he gets noticed which for some reason makes us miss his defensive mistakes IMO.
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| Don't know where you get 1/10 for Smith, James. I thought he was better than Myler - He actually tried to run across the line to create something on several occasions there was just no-one actually ever in a position for him to give a decent pass to. Other than the poor kick straight at Owen in the first half I can't think of any glaringly bad play from him.
I see I'm not the only one who was quite perplexed at how Phil was given man of the match as well...
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| Quote: Adamjk "Don't know where you get 1/10 for Smith, James. I thought he was better than Myler - He actually tried to run across the line to create something on several occasions there was just no-one actually ever in a position for him to give a decent pass to. Other than the poor kick straight at Owen in the first half I can't think of any glaringly bad play from him.
I see I'm not the only one who was quite perplexed at how Phil was given man of the match as well...
If and when I see Smith make a break from the base of the scrum this season I may change my opinion of him, to date he has failed to impress me everytime he's played his season.
But hopefully he will come good next week at Warrington Wolves and prove me wrong.
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| Quote: Adamjk "Don't know where you get 1/10 for Smith, James. I thought he was better than Myler - He actually tried to run across the line to create something on several occasions there was just no-one actually ever in a position for him to give a decent pass to. Other than the poor kick straight at Owen in the first half I can't think of any glaringly bad play from him.
I see I'm not the only one who was quite perplexed at how Phil was given man of the match as well...
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| Quote: rerykama "Yes but you forget that Smith is the fall-guy this season. Like Luke Dorn last season the "experts" have decided they don't like him, and no matter what he does or doesn't do,he's useless.'"
Look Jeremy Smith is not the fall guy this season, after speaking to Mr Simms the other week he convinced me that Smith will come good in time.
But as we all know down at Salford there are no hiding places and if you don't perform out on the paddock you get stick.
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| Quote: rerykama "[sizeYes but you forget that Smith is the fall-guy this season. Like Luke Dorn last season the "experts" have decided they don't like him, and no matter what he does or doesn't do,[/size[sizehe's useless[/size.'"
that's better
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| Quote: rerykama "Yes but you forget that Smith is the fall-guy this season. Like Luke Dorn last season the "experts" have decided they don't like him, and no matter what he does or doesn't do,he's useless.'"
To be honest when we originally signed him from the Rabbitoh's I was one of the first people to voice my concerns at him. I've seen enough small flashes in his game to think that he still has the potential to be a good but not great player for us.
I think a lot of the abuse that he gets pretty much stems from the fact that Ratchford is often playing out of position. If Myler goes next season and we line up with Smith and Ratchford as a half back partnership I have a feeling that there won't be as much moaning about Smith, especially if after having a season over here under his belt, he starts to perform better.
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| Quote: Mr James ROwley "Look Jeremy Smith is not the fall guy this season, after speaking to Mr Simms the other week he convinced me that Smith will come good in time.
But as we all know down at Salford there are no hiding places and if you don't perform out on the paddock you get stick.'" But he is the fall-guy. Any mistake he makes,the fans are on his back straight away,Adamson knocked on on the second play last night,nothing said,imagine the abuse Smith would have received if he had knocked-on.
FWIW I think Smith has been disappointing,but he's not as bad as people try to make out.Part of this is I suppose because fans see him keeping Ratchford from the stand-off position,but that is McRae's decision,whether you agree with it or not.
If you were serious with your "ratings",then to give Smith 1/10 on last night's game suggests you ARE treating him as this seasons scapegoat.
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| Hello you guys,
Just a couple of things here. I have not seen our lads live this season, so I know I might just take some flak for my opinions.
It just goes to show how team/fans can be up and down within a very short space in time. If you look at Littlers stats they are anything but rubbish.
He has notched quite a few points up for us through thick and thin.
Also, I think if we're honest about our season so far, we may have settled for some of the results that we have achieved and even the league position we are currently in with hindsight.
If we REALLY take a good look at SL in general you would have to say that every team is searching for consistency: Leeds away, Hull FC away, Saints at home.
Every week there is an "upset".
It's easy to target players that are not in the limelight and that seem to be overlooked despite their endeavours for our club, but I suppose that is why we're fans and they are players/coaches.
RL is (on paper) a simple game with basic objectives: but as we can see week in and week out there is a must win mentality that sometimes rubs us "old uns" and losing supporters up the wrong way.
I think that what has made RL a "progressive" sport is the way we have embraced "change".
Oh, and by the way: leave Stu Littler alone, he is an honest hard working player. It's not up to us to decide whether he's good enough: that's what the coaching staff get paid for.
I'm really sick of the negative attitudes on our board!!
All the best: BD.
P.S. feel better now.
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| Butchersdad
Actually for the first 24 minutes I thought Smith was excellent ... that missed tackle seemed to stop this and I wonder if the criticism is subjectivly getting to him. If it is, and I support Salford and therefore all players, I'll give him 100%
We're all human.
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| Quote: Luke the Red "There was one guy having a real go at Stu Littler last night. He was stood infront of me in the shed, and had Chris Charles on the back of his Salford shirt. He was havin a right go, and was bang out of order.'"
thats funny, you was at home listening to GMR
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| Littler just isnt SL standard and is exactly the sort of player we need to get rid of in order to progress.
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| Lets be honest about this , I`m pretty sure Stuart has kept his place place in the the team this season due injury problems we`ve had.
I expected him to off the bench etc . I`ll concede he`s not the the most talented player we have in the team but you know what your going to get, he is commited and plays to the best of his ability.
AS for JS, there`s something wrong , you give players a chance and its not happening for him I`m afraid, he occupies a crucial position in the Salford team and he has been shown how to do it by two young lads.,
He needs to be in the reserves asap
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| Quote: Butchersdad "Hello you guys,
Just a couple of things here. I have not seen our lads live this season, so I know I might just take some flak for my opinions.
It just goes to show how team/fans can be up and down within a very short space in time. If you look at Littlers stats they are anything but rubbish.
He has notched quite a few points up for us through thick and thin.
Also, I think if we're honest about our season so far, we may have settled for some of the results that we have achieved and even the league position we are currently in with hindsight.
If we REALLY take a good look at SL in general you would have to say that every team is searching for consistency: Leeds away, Hull FC away, Saints at home.
Every week there is an "upset".
It's easy to target players that are not in the limelight and that seem to be overlooked despite their endeavours for our club.
Oh, and by the way: leave Stu Littler alone, he is an honest hard working player. It's not up to us to decide whether he's good enough: that's what the coaching staff get paid for.
I'm really sick of the negative attitudes on our board!!
BD You are correct in every way, the people who are having a go at Stuart Littler are not interested in what he is doing, they are only interested in having their usual scapegoat.
With regards Jeremy Smith many of the people who are not satisfied with his performances could have come(but didn't) to the Forever Reds meeting last Monday and if they had have done I would have more time for them.
He and the other players came, listened and answered every question honestly to the satisfaction of everyone there and they know that they can and should do better.
As I have said previously to physically abuse any player , his family, or club officials in the manner that a small number have been doing is a disgrace and the club would be better off without them.
This small minority are spoiling it for all the other fans who are more loyal and passionate but can control the way that they handle the knock backs that we will always take throughout the season.
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