On the predicatable Super League point I agree. We do need more off the cuff play. I think size and strength is being valued too often over rugby brains.

My only point is that you do appear to be sniping at Salford. I mean, we know things aren't great, we know we'll be tennants in the new stadium. We don't need it pointing out Just like I don't post a comment that you are in Championship 1, or that Wakefield entered administration, it doesn't need to be pointed out.

Opinions are like Swinton fans. It'll take you a long time to find an intelligent one.

Do you browse this, or other internet forums much? He/she is an example of one of the most predictable contributors to any internet discussion group. Best you either learn to enjoy it (it supports Swinton FFS! ) or maybe the internet's not for you?

Thanks for that, needed the mood lightening a little.

Thanks for the daily dose of patronisation I do understand how forums work, which is why I replied to Marshy. Otherwise it would be mighty quiet. Anyway, I've been enlightened and voiced my opinion, so I'm happy (well as happy as a Salford fan can be right now )

Marshy1 I'll tell you straight. Enjoy your moment in the sun fella, it won't last long. Any intelligent person can see that you are simply 'taking the p1ss' just because Swinton have won a few games, and as (you have rightly but not solely pointed out) we appear to be imploding. It's not the least bit clever of you and it's not the least bit original. If Swinton had any recognisable success over the last 30-40 years, you might be justified in your sniping. As it is, it simply appears juvenile and silly. Find something else to amuse yourself as you've now become tiresome. All that being said, I'm looking forward to Wembley with you again, it's been a few years .....

I'll pay up soon mate, sooner still if Salford progress in the competition

very interesting what Luke Patten has had to say in the M E N.

"Some pretty big and important decisions need to be made at Salford sooner rather than later. "

"we've had to contend with different people taking charge and because everyone has their own coaching style and ideas we've been doing one thing and then we've had to do other things differently. "

obviously not typed the whole article, he does go on to say the players are to blame for missed tackles and dropped balls.

If the fans and players can see it why can't Simm's Alker and Wilky can't. I personally think Wilky and the board have not got the guts to make a change. Prove me wrong Wilky. It's going to come down to us fans again half time protest on Saturday to demand what the hell is going on.

It is a good article, spoken how he feels, just hope they go out & show the fans on Saturday.

Well there's a plea from the heart from someone who's opinion must be taken seriously

Time for the board to act decisively and get everyone - players, coaches, management and fans all singing from the same hymn sheet for once - will it happen?

think its a great article and reading you get the feeling that if he feels like that then everyone does!

we need to get behind the lads on saturday more than ever to show that we are here for them, despite whats going on off the field