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Quote: Always behind the sticks "Don't think so, his brief was to utilise his contacts in Oz and visit there on scouting missions right from the get-go. It may be that it was because Steve Mc had no substantive contacts in the NRL or even the country RL set up over there that led to Steve Simms being employed by the Chairman. I spoke to Simmsy for an hour about his role when he'd just joined the club (in the Walkabout actually, I was there on my works Xmas do and he was there on Salford's Xmas do. He'd got there early and was stood on his own waiting for Ian Millward to turn up, so I took the opportunity and struck up a conversation). It's a fair amount of time ago now but even then he said his role was to help source and negotiate the overseas players terms for joining us and help with player welfare - no coaching involved and he didn't want to be a coach either as far as I can recall.'"


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Quote: Always behind the sticks "Don't think so, his brief was to utilise his contacts in Oz and visit there on scouting missions right from the get-go. It may be that it was because Steve Mc had no substantive contacts in the NRL or even the country RL set up over there that led to Steve Simms being employed by the Chairman. I spoke to Simmsy for an hour about his role when he'd just joined the club (in the Walkabout actually, I was there on my works Xmas do and he was there on Salford's Xmas do. He'd got there early and was stood on his own waiting for Ian Millward to turn up, so I took the opportunity and struck up a conversation). It's a fair amount of time ago now but even then he said his role was to help source and negotiate the overseas players terms for joining us and help with player welfare - no coaching involved and he didn't want to be a coach either as far as I can recall.'"


Perhaps this could be made a sticky for the poor people on here who suffer from chronic Simmsophobia.

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Quote: KMT "......Walkabout of all the venues hey!!'"


To be fair, we were only there for a cheap beer before we went to the V&A hotel for posh nosh and ridiculous beer prices!!

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Quote: Bigpev "and 6 hours later memory erased
I can recall most of that conversation actually along with some pretty awful 'dad' dancing later on after several scoops too many!!

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Quote: Red John "Perhaps this could be made a sticky for the poor people on here who suffer from chronic Simmsophobia.'"


Amen to that, matey.

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Quote: Always behind the sticks "Amen to that, matey.'"


But just make sure nobody mentions signing Borgese off youtube, or the crocked Bailey, or paying top dollar to Jeremy Smith...

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Quote: Iain "But just make sure nobody mentions signing Borgese off youtube, or the crocked Bailey, or paying top dollar to Jeremy Smith...'"


Or letting the aussie players have a clause in their contract saying they don't have to return to training til January, much to the frustration of our new head coach..........

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Quote: Always behind the sticks "IIRC, one of Simms first contributions to our overseas signings were Darren Brown and Bobby Thompson who were a marked improvement on what had come before.'"


I may be wrong, but weren't they signed by Andy Gregory? I'm sure I remember Brown and Hudson Smith playing in a televised cup game at home to Sheffield the year after they beat us in the semi. Was Simms with us as long ago as 1999.

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Quote: Early Bath "No'"


To which bit?

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Quote: Iain "To which bit?'"

I think Iain is bang on the money there. Had to think twice about it, but I'm sure Brown made his debut in the 16-6 revenge victory at home vs Sheffield, live on grandstand. In our first Joe Bloggs kit.

Top player was Brown. Him, Deadman, Jim Smith and Jason Nichol stand out in that era for me, I especially remember Skull smoking a cig in the Variety Centre, at the entrance near Weaste Lane on the ground side, and it was at that point I realised we weren't as professional as we should be as a club, hopefully that will now change.

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You forget don't you it all blurs into one alcoholic dream for me was it not john Harvey?

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Quote: MagentaMagique "I especially remember Skull smoking a cig in the Variety Centre'"


Harder stuff than that if you caught a few of them on a night out.

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Quote: Iain "To which bit?'"


Sorry Iain - He wasnt with us in 1999

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Quote: Iain "I may be wrong, but weren't they signed by Andy Gregory? I'm sure I remember Brown and Hudson Smith playing in a televised cup game at home to Sheffield the year after they beat us in the semi. Was Simms with us as long ago as 1999.'"


Just shows how memories get muxed up! Thinking back now it must have been Xmas 2003 that I spoke to Simmsy and a quick google search revealed that for the 2004 season we had struck a deal for Dane Carlaw (but that eventually didn't happen) and Sean Rutgerson was removed from our overseas quota because of his SA roots. I can't remeber who else we'd signed that year.

In terms of signing Borgese from Youtube, perhaps things have slipped since he came on board, who knows? The Bailey signing surely must have been down to McRae's say so - i.e. McRae says he wants him and Steve makes the numbers work?

Finally, the clause in the contract about the overseas players coming back later. I've been doing some thinking about that and wondered whether it was a deliberate negotiation point, i.e. we say to a prospective sigining 'look, we haven't got the money to pay you the same rates as the big boys but if you sign with us you're guarenteed a longer break back home in the off season.' I know that's probably self-defeating but it may explain why it was done. If it isn't a negotiation point and we're paying the same or nearly the same as other clubs then I can understand why Parish has seen his a*rse about it!

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