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| Mite Mouse said "They havent come to Barton to help us,they have come here to help themselves,and believe me they will.I wonder if they would of moved in if we had some financial say in the stadium,which we all thought we would have,you know what,i don`t think they would have.Ive said it before,my main concern is that they finance the second phase,where would that leave us" .........
I have no idea how it would be financed but its on the minds of some judging by the Sale Sharks message board ........
Re: The new stadium
Date: 15 April, 2012 19:43
Agree, the stadium itself looks excellent. There has been talk that it could be expanded to 20,000. Which parts would be changed to allow for that expansion? Presumably the east stand and/or filling in the corners
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Re: The new stadium
Posted by: SwannyMediaMan (IP Logged)
Date: 15 April, 2012 19:45
What a great option that would be, just need it filled every game and then we can plan for the 20,000 .......
Mmmmm  pity there wasn't much spent on Edgeley and BK owns that! I can't see him wanting to spend on a stadium they don't own can you?  ... not a bad position to be in though eh? plan to improve with no outlay or plan to improve and stick some dosh in .... but why would you spend dosh on .... and on we go! 
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| Heywood Rd Era Sale RUFC fans used to stand near us in the Shed in the 80's 90's ,
it's not the support we are wary of , I've seen Sales supporters in the West stand this season I've no issue .
Edgleley Park wasn't being developed for the same reason our Weaste Ground wasn't ... you can polish a tur6 and spend dosh on it, but it's still a tur6, albeit polished.
Barton is brand new with footings in the east stand for a 2nd Tier to increase capacity to 15K and to put seated tiers over the north & South Terraces to increase capacity to 20K . That's potentially 8K increase in gate receipts for minimum capital outlay.
We've increased our attendances from Weaste , but are still struggling to half fill the place ,
Sale will hit 12K capacity by .. day one judging by the reaction to their first open day at Barton. [url=http://www.salesharks.com/RugbyNewsDetail/article/2736928/name/%22Phenomenal%22%20day%20at%20Salford%20on%20Sundayopen day[/url with a 2nd one planned for tomorrow.
And as was commented on the thread we are ripe for aquisition , thrusted up like a Turkey for xmas,, a Scarlet Turkey .
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| I am obviously one of the so called Dinosaurs.
Judging by the comments I have actually heard at the last home game and also from reports of what people have said at the open day kick and clap still sees itself as a superior game.
They have ex RL coaches at clubs and in the national set up and also players but still think they are better.
I would rather watch paint dry than that over hyped rolling about on the ground drivel.
Sale will get bigger crowds as they are the only Premiership RU in the area.
Just wait for the responses on their message boards when that happens.
I dont trust Sale as a whole not just the club but the fans as well.
It has happened and their is nothing I can do, but dont expect me to applaud or welcome them.
Remember it is The SALFORD Community stadium and if that ever changes it will be the day I stop going
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| Of course they think their game is better - the same as we think ours is the superior code.
I like coffee, you like tea. Who cares?!
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| Quote ="Prestwich Red"
Remember it is The SALFORD Community stadium and if that ever changes it will be the day I stop going'"
You'd think that there's every chance that the name will change at some stage to a sponsored stadium, although at the moment one of the biggest ticket selling concert arenas in the world is lacking a name sponsor since the MEN ended its arena sponsorship.
The RFL should sponsor the ground and call it the Salford Rugby League Stadium.
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| Quote ="Iain"You'd think that there's every chance that the name will change at some stage to a sponsored stadium, although at the moment one of the biggest ticket selling concert arenas in the world is lacking a name sponsor since the MEN ended its arena sponsorship.
The RFL should sponsor the ground and call it the Salford Rugby League Stadium.'"
now if we were in Bradford but do the RFL know about us?
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| Ohh and whilst I'm on one. They're talking about adopting Dirty Old Town as their anthem according to their message board, could this get any worse?
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| Quote ="Ave It!"Ohh and whilst I'm on one. They're talking about adopting Dirty Old Town as their anthem according to their message board, could this get any worse?'"
Red shirts, drop a couple of players from the pack, abolish lineouts, 6 rucks?
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| Quote ="Iain"Red shirts, drop a couple of players from the pack, abolish lineouts, 6 rucks?'"
More like it'll be us who end up wearing blue shirts, adding a couple of players, putting on a few pounds and kicking a lot!!! 
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| These Sale fans are going to start getting on people's tits sharpish if they carry on.
I'm with Prestwich Red - I don't want anything to do with them. Joint supporters groups and singing Dirty Old Town. Give me strength.
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| Worrying thing is thier fans can probably get the song going in the ground most of our fans are to thick too remember the words or tune.
Fu*k off Sale.
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| Quote ="Walshovski"These Sale fans are going to start getting on people's tits sharpish if they carry on.
I'm with Prestwich Red - I don't want anything to do with them. Joint supporters groups and singing Dirty Old Town. Give me strength.'"
I believe that the Dirty Old Town suggestion was a joke - also the joint fans group was suggested/started by a Salford fan, not Sale.
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| Bobby is listed as a friend in the group 
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| Quote ="Olyy"I believe that the Dirty Old Town suggestion was a joke - also the joint fans group was suggested/started by a Salford fan, not Sale.'"
Yeah, I know. Very worrying that some of our fans are even thinking of it 
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| I remember the captain of the union team at my university tried to block our path at every turn when we first started up a rugby league team. He lobbied the management of the university to block our application for recognition/funding, tried to have us banned from using the university sports grounds, threatened to ban any of their players who turned out to play for us and, when all that failed, he then tried to get us banned from using the word rugby in the name of the club in case it 'confused' anyone.
I found this bloke's ignorance and bigotry towards another sport completely baffling, but I'd like to think that the world has changed for the better. I can understand why some on here are apprehensive, but I'm disappointed that more people aren't able to keep more of an open mind before condemning and judging those - from both clubs - seem sincere in their wish to make things work.
The proof of the pudding will be in the eating but it's a shame that one or two people seem to offer the impression that they want problems to emerge.
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| Quote ="Fungus The Muffin Man"Bobby is listed as a friend in the group
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Remind me where he lives again? I bet he's dying to come out and say he's buying a joint ST. 
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| Quote ="Wayward Fan"I remember the captain of the union team at my university tried to block our path at every turn when we first started up a rugby league team. He lobbied the management of the university to block our application for recognition/funding, tried to have us banned from using the university sports grounds, threatened to ban any of their players who turned out to play for us and, when all that failed, he then tried to get us banned from using the word rugby in the name of the club in case it 'confused' anyone.
I found this bloke's ignorance and bigotry towards another sport completely baffling, but I'd like to think that the world has changed for the better. I can understand why some on here are apprehensive, but I'm disappointed that more people aren't able to keep more of an open mind before condemning and judging those - from both clubs - seem sincere in their wish to make things work.
The proof of the pudding will be in the eating but it's a shame that one or two people seem to offer the impression that they want problems to emerge.'"
Your top paragraph sums up perfectly why we should not trust Sale Sharks and Rugby Union. Times haven't changed as much as you think, they think they're better than us and will try to block things just like the union captain you allude to did, but a much bigger scale. And with the weakness of our management and lack of backbone, then they will walk all over us. I honestly hand heart cannot see how Sale coming will have any benefit to us and I've listened to countless arguments on here, still nothing has changed my mind. We need to be wary of these leeches and I for one will not be welcoming them with open arms.
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| Quote ="Ave It!"they think they're better than us'"
Quote ="Ave It!"And with the weakness of our management and lack of backbone'"

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Yet again you offer nothing to the debate. If you don't think that Rugby Union, its fans and players think they're better than us then fine offer me a counter argument. If you think the people running our club won't be bullied by Sale's big cheeses then fine. Explain to me what we will do/are doing to stop this happening? Sale have had one open day so far with another one today and they've already made more of the stadium than we have in nearly half a season.
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| Quote ="Wayward Fan"The proof of the pudding will be in the eating but it's a shame that one or two people seem to offer the impression that they want problems to emerge.'"
One or two
I can not think of a positive thing that will come of this.
They will try to nick or players.
They will try to nick fans in the area.
We are bound to see Sharks (put whatever you want in front of that) soon to be put on the stadium frontage.
They will eventually want to take over a ground they have had fook all to do with in the first place.
They are parasites who have hit lucky and will make the most of the free opportunity given to them.
Do not associate with or help them, we are working class oiks according to the majority of Sale and Rah Rah fans
When the original poster stated in a earlier e-mail he had no idea there was a football club in Salford summed up their mentality.
Just waiting for the comments on the Brookhouse Estate and Eccles town centre from the to$$ers
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| Quote ="Fungus The Muffin Man"Bobby is listed as a friend in the group
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I think its good to have a platform for any unsportsman like conduct by eather club to be highlighted....rather than just bitching about it on here you know
To be fair sale is fair game for marketing, been here nearly 2 years, not one poster or presence in the town their advertiser is worse than ours for it comes to coverages
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| Quote ="Prestwich Red"Do not associate with or help them, we are working class oiks according to the majority of Sale and Rah Rah fans'"
Simply not true. I'd wager that a majority of Sale fans will be League fans as well, or at least have a passing interest in the sport, and I've never seen/heard any speaking in the way you suggest about League fans.
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| Quote ="Ave It!"Yet again you offer nothing to the debate. If you don't think that Rugby Union, its fans and players think they're better than us then fine offer me a counter argument. If you think the people running our club won't be bullied by Sale's big cheeses then fine. Explain to me what we will do/are doing to stop this happening? Sale have had one open day so far with another one today and they've already made more of the stadium than we have in nearly half a season.'"
To discuss the latter part of your post. Your complaining about sale doing things the right way! Probably made to look so much better by the complete disaster or board made of the only and only chance they had to move to a new home in style and encourage potential new supporters. That's not sales fault its ours.
Also if our board do get bullied by another organization on a similar contract will tell us everything we need to know about the quality of their management.
It seems to me a large part of this hatred of sale is more due to the realisation of many that our club probably are the potential makers of their own destruction.
If salford can't become a success its not sales fault
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| Prestwich Red: [iWhen the original poster stated in a earlier e-mail he had no idea there was a football club in Salford summed up their mentality.[/i
Just why should I know that there's a football club in Salford? It's not a sport that I follow and to be frank I'd be hard pressed to name more than a few teams in the football league. That doesn't mean I feel antagonistic to those sporting clubs.
Perhaps you can tell me the names of all the football and other sporting clubs in, say, Bishops Stortford? Or Chester?
No? So why should I know clubs, in a sport which doesn't interest me, in Salford? I don't live there.
I'm interested in theatre, perhaps you could tell me the names of all the theatres, both professional and amateur in Salford?
No?
It may not be an interest of yours and, if it isn't, I wouldn't expect you to know them.
So why should I know of Salford's various sporting clubs, whatever sport they might play?
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