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Quote: John Gilbert Reds "It's simple, Koukash needs to sit back and let Sheens run the show. All Marwan should concern himself with is making sure the players wages are paid correctly and on-time along with any other bills due. This alone would solve 90% of the troubles we're currently experiencing.'"


I agree.

We need to be careful labeling another Messiah, especially one that's only here for another nine weeks.

I'm not sure what Sheens can actually do in such a short time. His ability lies in man-management, coaching, and training. Asking him to take on the role of Club 'go-to-man' for every problem area might be a step too far and asking him to work miracles in an area he will have limited experience in himself. Hopefully, he'll be getting stuck into the footy side of things.

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If Sheens makes one recruitment it must be a manager with a big pair of balls, from all accounts the Doc gets involved in the playing side of things so a no nonsense manager is needed who will basically ask to be left alone to do his job.

Someone like a Sheens himself in fact.

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Quote: John Gilbert Reds "It's simple, Koukash needs to sit back and let Sheens run the show. All Marwan should concern himself with is making sure the players wages are paid correctly and on-time along with any other bills due. This alone would solve 90% of the troubles we're currently experiencing.'"


If only it was that simple! For whatever reason there seems to be a cash-flow issue!

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Quote: Michigan red "If Sheens makes one recruitment it must be a manager with a bit set of balls, from all accounts the Doc gets involved in the playing side of things so a no nonsense manager is needed who will basically ask to be left alone to do his job.'"


A successful and experienced coach with people skills is what this clubs needs.

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



Quote: Chico "I'm concerned about the sentiment that people would rather watch Salford in the Championship or League One than endure the current situation. I can’t believe anyone who endured the 2008 season could believe that, even with those cup finals. The stench of death lingers below Super League – if you’re not in there, you are nowhere.

Not having a go mate but the stench of death that appears to surround Salford & Wakefield at the moment far out weighs that of the championship

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Salford Red Devils RLFC. [quote="Gotcha":y7izhg01]Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.[/quote:y7izhg01]:



Quote: redgunner "If only it was that simple! For whatever reason there seems to be a cash-flow issue!'"


Weird that isn't it, particularly when you consider our owner is apparently a "multi-millionaire".

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Are people seriously saying the Doc doesn't have enough money to run the club or pay the players?

I'd be very surprise given the very succinct way the Doc said every player has been paid on time or early since he took charge.

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Salford Red Devils RLFC. [quote="Gotcha":y7izhg01]Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.[/quote:y7izhg01]:



Quote: Michigan red "Are people seriously saying the Doc doesn't have enough money to run the club or pay the players?

I'd be very surprise given the very succinct way the Doc said every player has been paid on time or early since he took charge.'"


Docs says every player paid on time, yet Hock's left, Puletua left, Locke left, Walton left, Tasi leaving, Theo leaving, Chase leaving, Paterson leaving and Hansen unhappy. Hmmm.... Coincidental, I think not!

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Your in dreamland if you think Leeds and Salford would merge that will never happen:



Quote: Michigan red "Are people seriously saying the Doc doesn't have enough money to run the club or pay the players?

I'd be very surprise given the very succinct way the Doc said every player has been paid on time or early since he took charge.'"

Would you honestly be surprised if he did turn out to be an Allen Stanford style character though? Not saying he [idefinitely[/i is mind.

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Quote: stouffer "Would you honestly be surprised if he did turn out to be an Allen Stanford style character though? Not saying he [idefinitely[/i is mind.'"


Think if that were to be the case he'd have been sussed by now, I think it's more likely to be that he does what most businesses do and pay things as late as possible allowing money to be kept earning interest for the longest possible time.

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Quote: Michigan red "Are people seriously saying the Doc doesn't have enough money to run the club or pay the players?

I'd be very surprise given the very succinct way the Doc said every player has been paid on time or early since he took charge.'"


Look at the history, are you suggesting all the players are lying, they are queuing up to get out! one player may have a grudge not a frigging team?

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Quote: j.c "Not having a go mate but the stench of death that appears to surround Salford & Wakefield at the moment far out weighs that of the championship'"


I disagree. And we’ve been in worse nick than this.

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Salford Red Devils RLFC. [quote="Gotcha":y7izhg01]Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.[/quote:y7izhg01]:



Quote: Michigan red "Think if that were to be the case he'd have been sussed by now, I think it's more likely to be that he does what most businesses do and pay things as late as possible allowing money to be kept earning interest for the longest possible time.'"


What businesses are these? I assume not very successful ones. If he is as rich as he makes out, then why would he need to earn the added interest on players wages.

I know if my company paid me incorrectly or continued to pay me incorrectly I wouldn't stick around.

Also, why do you think Gareth Hock and Kevin Locke both left for FREE despite Koukash paying considerable transfer fees for both? If you’re unsure of the term, look up ‘repudiation’. Any breach of a contract (ie not paying on time or in accordance with contract) allows players to terminate ‘at will’ and walk away from their contract. Not great business sense from our multi-millionaire businessman owner, eh? Same could happen with Rangi, Hansen and Theo.

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Quote: John Gilbert Reds "What businesses are these? I assume not very successful ones. If he is as rich as he makes out, then why would he need to earn the added interest on players wages.
'"


The larger the business the later (or extended payment terms) they pay, this is based on my experience working for a very large multi national company. Big companies find the most spurious issues with invoices which is nothing but a credit management ploy.

What you find with people with more money than you or I will ever have in the bank is that it's never enough, they will find ways to make what money they have earn them as much as possible.

Odd I thought Hock was let go because let's be honest he's a bit of a bell end and a huge liability on the field and I'm pretty sure that Locke walking away is subject to ongoing legal proceedings.

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It would be nice if the club especially the Dr came out and actually gave a constructive press conference addressing the issues instead of just swearing and shouting and threatening legal advice at anyone and everyone.

The more concerning issue is, his antics on the playing side of things some fantastic players want out of the club and in Rugby League circles this is very damaging as what player in his right mind will sign for Koukash after hearing what others have gone through, I wish there was a plan b but we are lumbered with this lunatic for the foreseeable future. A lot of hardcore fans will be ground down to the point of no return.

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