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Quote: Red John "I'm not offended. I entirely agree. I've said it before, but this board is getting more and more like the Jeremy Kyle show. It reached it's zenith with Sluggate, when (supposedly) fully grown adults saw fit to spray puerile insults around. Very embarrassing for all involved, in my opinion.

In addition to socal constructionism, etc., motivated reasoning is something else people could check out on t'interweb.'"


They certainly should look at "motivated reasoning."
It certainly is becoming more like the JK show. But perhaps this is wider problem. If I had the ability of Charlie Brooker to critically analyse TV and the the wider effects of TV I'd go on another tangent. But, as a mere simpleton, relatively speaking, I shall comment that the media does appear to have a massive influence on people. Talksport, the tabloid newspapers, Sky tv, ITV and the like have a lot to answer for.
All full of conjecture, childishness, poorly considered reasoning and dispositional attribution... Somewhat like the shed!

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I think we're going to get battered, we're looking very, very light in the pack and as for our bench, ouch!

Cashmere (Prop) – Banned
Spencer (Prop / Second Row) – Banned
Jewitt (Prop) – Injured
Palea'aesina (Prop) – Injured
Anderson (Second Row) – Injured
Bailey (Second Row) – Injured

So we'll look something like;
Patten
Broughton
Henry
Gleeson
Gibson
Ratchford
Holdsworth
Neal
Godwin
Boyle
L. Adamson
Nero
Wild

Subs:
Smith
Sidlow

Then two from:
Sneyd
T. Adamson
Clay
Owen

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Quote: TheButcher "Spot on post RP.

It is indeed a sad indictment on Society these days, that everyone demands things immediately, feels the need to blame, and are suddenly experts on everything because they have the internet. We support Salford because we foolishly tied our colours to the red mast and it should be our duty to ride out the storms that she goes through. It's all about the journey, and hopefully we will eventually see the shore before we feel the need to pass the red torch on to the next generation.

Let's not forget that it is just sport and entertainment for us. An often cruel and depressing entertainment at times, but the highs feel so much higher for that. We should enjoy the gamble we place every time we pay to watch the Reds. Passion can work positively or negatively and it's up to us to change that.

*Rousing orchestral score fades*

I thank you.


Precisely how I see it. eusa_clap.gif

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Quote: Fungus The Muffin Man "I don't know I think there is still some good bouts of humour despite the surrounding misery.

We should bring back the confetti and bog rolls. I used to love aiming them at evil solly's head when we threw them lol.

I think one problem is that the shed is divided into to many fractions. Theres the young and restless who stand behind me. The nobbers below you lot. Then the turkey lot and then the other turkey lot outside the shed. I notice it more now since standing away from the turkey lot. I know that the nobbers and the young and restless tend to be the more abusive/ singsongs aimed at the opposition. However on many occasions if they start a Salford chant the turkey lot will start a different chant instead of joining in. It almost smacks of an elitism within the shed. There's no cohesiveness. Perhaps alot of this has to do with the oncoming of age and how you interpret things that you never really looked at that deeply before. Maybe the shed has always been the same, it just changes in your opinion, when really it's you changing.'"


Whilst I have mixed feelings on the comments regarding elitism within the shed, I accept that it is possible that it may never have changed and that my perspective has. Hard to say really.

Apologies for the multi-posts peeps. I was intending on answering all points in the same post but the limited capability of the forum doesn't want to let me. (Or maybe I'm being thick!)

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Quote: king of the shed "I think we're going to get battered, we're looking very, very light in the pack and as for our bench, ouch!

Cashmere (Prop) – Banned
Spencer (Prop / Second Row) – Banned
Jewitt (Prop) – Injured
Palea'aesina (Prop) – Injured
Anderson (Second Row) – Injured
Bailey (Second Row) – Injured

So we'll look something like;
Patten
Broughton
Henry
Gleeson
Gibson
Ratchford
Holdsworth
Neal
Godwin
Boyle
L. Adamson
Nero
Wild

Subs:
Smith
Sidlow

Then two from:
Sneyd
T. Adamson
Clay
Owen


Add Parker to that as well.

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Quote: The Original Red Devils "Add Parker to that as well.'"

Yeah forgot about him, is he 100% fit?

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Quote: HKR Smithy "a014.gif Great post mate. The 'fans' who do create this negativity are the ones who expect success, to win every game, and the spiral of negativity you mention starts as soon as this doesnt happen. The people who talk utter tripe you should ignore but if there is a considerable amount of them maybe you cant
Thanks. It really is massively frustrating to see how it's going/gone. I mean, I've witnessed "fans" being arrested, general loutishness that should have resulted in further arrests, groups of lads chanting (slurring) songs at opposition supporters despite the fact that it wasn't funny due to a) poor timing, b)lack of originality, c) nobody but there own team's supporters could hear them (barely), and d) made the rest of us look plain thick! And all the above, minus the arrest was just last Friday. It's actually become embarrassing to be a Salford fan!

Rather annoyingly, many of the perpetrators do actually share the same passion for the club. Not that they give a very good impression of it.

You know, it's only 3 or so years since we were literally bouncing on the terraces, full of exhuberance, excitement and occasionally smoke flares. (That although not dangerous in the slightest, resulted in one grade A supporter being banned)
It was quality almost every week!

Anyway, I'm starting to do my own head in now so I'm gonna stop. Cheers for the compliment though. Hopefully we can feed off the passion the Hull KR fans clearly have these days.



Nice to hear many other Reds share the same views. GT, PR etc.

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To be fair though RP they get behind the team, some of the older fans are alot worse, they look down their nose at the younger lot and would rather judge other fans instead of having a good luck in the mirror. It annoys me that just because your young and have a pint in your hand people jump to the conclusion that your a thug and it isnt fair

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Quote: king of the shed "Yeah forgot about him, is he 100% fit?'"


I think so couldn't be 100% on that but ive not heard anything different.

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Quote: Red Preacher ".( the louts who were an absolute embarrassment at Leeds last week.)'"



C'mon RP I Didn't think I was too bad on Friday and to be fair I had been on it since 1 icon_wink.gif

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Quote: king of the shed "I think we're going to get battered, we're looking very, very light in the pack and as for our bench, ouch!

Cashmere (Prop) – Banned
Spencer (Prop / Second Row) – Banned
Jewitt (Prop) – Injured
Palea'aesina (Prop) – Injured
Anderson (Second Row) – Injured
Bailey (Second Row) – Injured

So we'll look something like;
Patten
Broughton
Henry
Gleeson
Gibson
Ratchford
Holdsworth
Neal
Godwin
Boyle
L. Adamson
Nero
Wild

Subs:
Smith
Sidlow

Then two from:
Sneyd
T. Adamson
Clay
Owen



Not looking good is it?

It'll be one hell of a result if we pull this one off.

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Well, to a certain extent they attempt to. But how they go about it just oozes loutishness that gets up the noses of other supporters, whether young, old, in between.

Versus Saints 3 weeks ago, a sizeable number of fans started to chant "if you all scousers clap your hands." BOOORING! And so completely mis-timed. Saints had just opened up a huge lead and most probably had a right old chuckle at the pathetic chant coming from the Shed. Indeed, there were many of us in the shed, who incidently are on the better side of 30 and also in possession of a pint, just wishing a giant hole would open up and swallow us such was the degree of embarrassment.

May I clarify that this isn't a tirade against young people trying to have fun. My name is not Derek, I do not shout at kids for playing in the street, I do not read the Daily Mail, I do not wear a cardigan, I do not watch Antiques Roadshow and I do not perceive young people with a pint as thugs. What I do perceive is that there are many fans in our current fanbase that just don't get it... For those that do get it, you'll know exactly what I mean.

Anyway, I've had my say.

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Quote: Ave It! "C'mon RP I Didn't think I was too bad on Friday and to be fair I had been on it since 1
Mate, you're one of the very few people I know who actually gets wittier with increasing inebriation. I fully expect and hope that you're well and truly slaughtered by 7:45 tomorrow night. "Ave it is our leader!"

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Quote: Red Preacher "Mate, you're one of the very few people I know who actually gets wittier with increasing inebriation. I fully expect and hope that you're well and truly slaughtered by 7


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I'm skint matey so it'll be a sober(ish) Ave It! on 7.45 tomorrow (Unless I speak to daddy Nicely) icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Red Preacher "Mate, you're one of the very few people I know who actually gets wittier with increasing inebriation. I fully expect and hope that you're well and truly slaughtered by 7

I'm skint matey so it'll be a sober(ish) Ave It! at 7.45 tomorrow (Unless I speak to daddy Nicely) icon_lol.gif

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