I think that your comment has very neatly summed up what the majority of fans feel: that it isn't that we are not getting too carried away with ourselves when it comes to realistic expectations, but that a lot is about effort, both personal and as a team.

It rips the heart heart out of good fans' when they see that it's not so much about conceding tries or losing games, but the manner in which this occurs. You don't have to be a "body language Guru", to read the obvious signs, they are there for all to see when lack of effort and conviction are major factors.

In my experience Salford fans will ALWAYS back a side if they can see that they are committed, and trying their best. I don't think any of us, as Reds fans, could be accused of being impatient for success.

Personally I don't think Sidlow is agile enough to play second row at Superleague level. By this I mean the speed of his feet from a standing start and not his overall speed when in full stride.

With his height and build he has the potential to tear it up in the front row but for whatever reason he seems to be lacking the aggression and drive to play prop. Perhaps its nothing more than a physcological issue that he could work on with the coaching staff? He's a big strong lad and he should be hurting people and doing more damage on the pitch than he is. Maybe big Ray could help the lad by mentering him and learning him how you use his size to his advantage?

My experience of seeing Sidlow is unfortunately from on Sky. But I have to agree with you here. Big he is, strong he is, but he appears to have very limited movement from the hips up. He doesn't look nearly agile or athletic enough for me.

As I have said: my watching him is very limited and I would gladly listen to anyone who disagrees.

For me he just doesn't look like a modern day SL forward.

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