What got me more than anything was that it appeared that nothing had changed, dropping of tackles and doing passable impressions of headless chickens when Hull got on a roll.

Hope I'm wrong but it doesn't fill me with optimism for the season ahead.

Well Stanley I would rather listen to the views of Mr Sheens who has forgotten more about RL than you`ll ever know.

A comment that seems to keep coming up is that Tim Sheens knows a great deal, I have no doubt there is know one in the sport with his knowledge.

But he is not the head coach, he is the director of rugby, sure he will have a hand in things but the match day 17, play book and coaching on a day to day basis will be squarely on the shoulders of Ian Watson.

I do wonder if the Doc might look to get Rowley involved with the club, maybe to work in tandem with Watson.

That'd be the Rowley who failed in the final furlong to deliver for Leigh?
Get a grip!

He did instil some good attacking rugby, give someone better players to work with you never know. Even if it was on a rolling monthly contract until he is picked up elsewhere nothing to lose.

I'll give it about 2 weeks before Dr Mar publicly berates the entire Salford squad on Twitter and demoralizes the entire squad

This reminds me of Karl Harrison in 2007 saying the team would come good on the hard tracks. We came good that year, didn't we.........

You are right but I can understand the negativity. It's TEN years since the last season I genuinely enjoyed watching the club. 2006, on the pitch was awesome and the atmosphere at the Willows was so positive. Since then we've had so much dross. Let's go into Thursdays game with optimism but it has a feeling of deja vu.

Sheens isn't going to ruin his illustrious career through Salford, whilst i'm sure he's pulling the strings Watson is just his fall guy for when things go pete tong.

Lets see what happens on thursday as Saints have a big game the week after they should be easy pickings for us .

Tom Spencer

What about him?

Massive over-reactions on here I think. You played probably the biggest pack in SL and they got a roll on and scored on the back of it. Luckily for us, we are able to be clinical compared to last season where we couldn't get over the line. Think you will go ok to be honest

Early Bath would have found a positive as the Titanic went down.No one was expecting to win at Hull,but we did expect a performance,not the game to be over at half time.How long before Koucash is mouthing off again, surprised he as not done so already.

Massive over reaction in the stands on Friday night and no surprise to read similar on here. I think most people knew Hull were going to come out all guns blazing and the key for us was to withstand that and go in at half-time within touching distance. Unforced errors and needless penalties gave Hull far too much of the ball in our half and with the quality they have this year they're going to make most teams pay for that. I thought Danny Houghton was outstanding for them, what I would give to see him in our team.

Without a doubt Watson got his team selection wrong, O'Brien shouldn't have started infront of Evalds and how was Joseph selected despite playing zero minutes of pre-season? Lannon should have been in there, as should A.Walne going off what we saw vs Rochdale and Wigan.

At the end of the day, Hull beat us 8 tries to 4 which when you consider the amount of possession we gifted them isn't surprising. I'm more than confident we'll bounce back on Thursday.

PS - Hull were clinical and look to have a genuine top 4 team this season. Exciting times for them.

Maybe your right who knows and good luck to them, but the bookies still have them as a middle of the road outfit and they are rarely wrong, lets have it right the ball game was over at 42-6 and I just wonder if they might just have taken their foot off the gas with a difficult trip to France next weekend ?