i wonder what the Sale fans think os this? from what ive heard there not happy at all with the move , many saying they wont be watching them again!!

So it's an uncivilised or primitive suggestion?

I said for a marketing ploy it would be a good move, I have little doubt that should Henson get on an RL pitch the added space would suit his game, he's a decent tackler and an excelent kicker. And surely you can see that there would be headlines in any such venture - whether Sale (or for that matter Salford) would go for it is a whole different question.
I to be honest didn't expect anything but a negatice slant on my post from you and your gang on here.
If you or anyone doubts my love for the club you seriously don't know me, I just don't go along with the doom and gloom of all this, we are in the main Masters of our own destiny here, if we die on our s I'm affraid it will be little to do with Sale playing at our shared stadium but the innept running of the club on many levels.

A property which we spent over a decade getting built and had to leave our home of 110 years to play at. To suggest there is no middle ground between outright ownership and getting shat on in every respect like we are now is ridiculous. Salford council need to step up on this and Salford RLFC need to improve beyond all recognition like you say. The fear that grips most people on here is Salford have shown absolutely no aptitude to make it work for us - hence one of the many reasons for the concern Sale will subsume us.

As for the Henson suggestion. . . oh dear.

Although I am not entirely happy with our demise some need to get real.

We were dead at the willows finished,given a couple more years at the willows we would have been playing regularly with Swinton in front of 1500 at best.

We have a chance at Barton with a City which does not give a f... about rugby league. Yes we have sold the silverware but without a magic sugar daddy the chance was taken to try & keep us in Super league, surely when the stadium was being built we knew we did not own the stadium & would have to share, or have some been asleep too long.

This myth that there is no appetite for RL in Salford is ridiculous. There does not appear to be an appetite for a terrible rugby team that gets relegated on average every 5 years and boasts some of the worse off the field management you could wish too find anywhere. Improve the latter and crowds would have improved slowly over the years, improve the former drastically and crowds would shoot up. There was 10k for the last game at The Willows just last September.

Some people on here appear ready to raise the white flag for Rugby League in Salford which is a frightening prospect.

Any kind of 'protest' at the game on Monday.... will be a complete waste of time. The deal is done... and all you will be doing is throwing a load of negativity around a winnable game... and more so... around many potential new fans and families.... You want to do it... wait... you have all season to do something properly and constructively.

However.... what you'll be left with are the usual suspects... which will turn out to be 30-40 people if you are lucky. I cast my mind back to the time when there were mergers being considered. We went to Oldham who we were supposed to be merging with... how many people protested at the game ? About 20-30.... and despite being a ridiculous idea... the powers wanted it to happen... yet we couldn't even muster enough people to make scratch the surface. Fortunately... the people running the game decided against it... but it certainly wasn't down to our protests.

The protests should have happened years ago... lets face it... there have been enough opportunities over the years.

I've said for the last couple of years that with the current setup at the club we were going nowhere but into a slump... but been shot down many times as Mr Negative. We just want to thank our lucky stars that the players on the pitch can play a bit... and we are winning games... because if we weren't... god only knows what this board would be like.

This isn't just about Sale moving in... That's just a consequence of the way we have been run over the years. I've no gripe with Sale at all... I have no issue per say with them moving in.... they have been given a good opportunity... why wouldn't they take it... My gripe is with what's happened over the last few years.

Fact is... there are a number of people on here who could do a better job than our CEO... and I lay a lot of the blame firmly at his feet as to why we are in the position of joint tenants of a stadium which we should have owned had we got it right years ago... but we didn't get it right did we.

I am not raising the white flag far from it, I have supported the club since the late 60s I still support in any way I can.
I am not happy about what as happened to our club but I like some on here live in the real world.
We don't have a product that sells enough, now we know the board have been pretty but we need now more than any other time in our history to get behind the club.
I seen many of the names on here saying they are not going to another match because it is crap, these same people are now crying wolf.

The simple solution would have been to move into the new stadium, for the club to get the marketing right and got the many extra 0000 bums on seats we need and maybe the owners might not have considered the option of a second tennant - the reality that was never going to happen. I really don't see how the club are getting shat on though! I'm not being flippant as if there is a reason they are and I'm missing it I'd gladly admit i'm wrong.

The Henson suggestion was mearly an idea, it would appear to me that the club gets a great many of it's 'brainwaves' from suggestions mooted on here so fail to see any harm in any suggestion that is meant with good intent.
We once bought an ex Wales RU international who granted had already converted to RL but hand't set the world on fire and he went on to become one of the best Captains I've seen and certainly one of the best props in the past 30 years.

Fantastic post walshy. You've hit the nail on the head. The Off field management is the cause of todays state of the club. The 10k last september proved there are supporters out there to be won over, the salford public do want rugby league, it cringes me to the bone with this myth we don't. And the obvious 30 year failings of this regime came up with jack shlt effort to win them back over. In hindesight. The move from the willows was the wrong decision in a lot of salfordians eyes.

Ive tried to read through 26 pages of turmoil, strife etc,

some of the stuff thats been wrote i wont bother even trying to answer, Dantes,

other , things that have been wrote i agree with,

To be honest we as a club and fans have had no say in the matter , of the stadium build, or Sale moving in with us.

We dont as fans unless someone from the club tells us what the deal with peel holdings was, as to what out agreement with peel holdings to us using the stadium was, and i doubt they will tell us, as they have kept us in the dark from day 2,

as for our support through the years, yes we have been on a rock n roll, ive been there since 1962 when i had my first season ticket as a lad, been to wembley the floodlight 7s all that , , the PEOPLE OF SALFORD HAVE BEEN THERE , its just that the people of SALFORD have changed, THEY ARE NOT SALFORDIANS ANY MORE, born n bred, and therefore dont know what SALFORD RLFC means to them,

I remember as a kid getting the autographs of the united players coming to watch SALFORD play.

As for the management of the club, the sooner we find a millionare to take control the better, but lets be honest its never gonna happen,

we have no choice ladies n gents but to shut up and put up with peel holdings,

OR DO WHAT NEWCASTLE UNITED FANS DID WHEN THEY TRIED TO RENAME THIER GROUND,

unless u saw the scene , i will say no more,

i dont like it as much as any other true salford lad or lass through n through, but i will still be there for the name of SALFORD RLFC,

as for the RFL dont make me laugh, ive seen more back bone in a jellyfish.

Unfortunately if we would have stayed at the willows we would have been out by now, the RFL board are pushing clubs into financial gulfs because they want to see shiney new grounds, If thw Welsh set up hadn't thrown the towel in, Wakefield would have been kicked out. We now have the Bradford problem, surely when they put their bid in for a franchise the RFL must not have really looked at the real finances that a club that size would expect to cost and the costings that Bradford put forward, because by January the RFL bailed them out. So the real question is are the current rfl board really good for rugby league? are they fit and proper to run a multi-million pound business? So the move may have been wrong but the Willows under the current RFL administration was a total no no.

Just read some more form the Sale side of it, the will be PLAYING ON A FRIDAY NITE, thank god for small mercy, that means WE SALFORD RLFC will be PLAYING HOPEFULLY ON A SUNDAY where will the toffs go now , and who f in cares.

The vast majority of people turning up on Monday don't read the Turkey and ,whilst they may have fond memories of the Willows, they just want to go and watch a decent game of rugby,locally.
We have a very neat modern ground and a competitive team.
That's a compliment to the club management.
Dual use of a stadium is long overdue.
Sports teams owning stadia will reduce.
Just go and enjoy it.
The glass is half full.

This is the nub of it.

This in turn feeds into all the anguish over the Sale move. Some Salford fans don't want to sqaure the circle of why we are in this mess in the first place and simply throw their hands up and say 'face reality we don't own this stadium' and then the closest they get to asking why is saying 'people in Salford don't like RL.'

Well if Mr Salford put as much effort time and money into the willows like he has at barton i'm almost certain the willows could of been revamped to some degree.

Pev, you need to get your Labour mates on Salford council to seriously get on board and help us. We need answers about what agreement both clubs have with the joint venture company and if necessary we need a better deal for Salford.

Dream on !

Why?

Firstly,they wouldn't tell us.
I would love to know!
Secondly we have no right to know .
Thirdly ,the deal has been signed and won't be changed.
As I say,we are where we are.
Deal with it.
Enjoy it.
Swinton or Oldham,who regularly thrashed us,would give their right arms to be in the position we are,with a millionaire benefactor.

We don't have a right to know what a ground part owned by our council is costing? You probably used to say we don't have a right to see what expenses MPs are claiming or we don't have a right to see who is meeting privately with the Prime Minister.

The deal could easily be changed - it's only a contract.

As for your Swinton or Oldham comment - is that how low we have sunk? Comparing ourselves with fallen giants of the past?

I want to see us move forward whereas you seem content standing still which inevitably means going backwards. I suppose if we did go backwards at least we might get the chance to ask Swinton and Oldham fans directly what they think of our Chairman, eh? Then again most people off this forum probably wouldn't bother going.

I will just deal with your final paragraph.
Staying at the Willows would have been standing still and therefore going backwards.
My point is that we have a good stadium and a decent team as a result of a forward looking Chairman.
Enjoy it.
Good night.

its a crutial time in the history of salford city reds, with Sale moving into our area the club and us the fans need to do as much as we can to promote rugby league, salford city reds and poo pooing any rugby union talk in the area.
im hoping that we are able to up our game and give sale a bloody noise in the battle for the manchester area.

Our manangement structure NEED to step up, this is a massive period and what is needed is strong leadership from top to bottom, JW HC DT and the rest of the saints that have put hard earned money into our club over the years need to restructure the club and make it look like Salford city reds is a organisation that is worth investing in.

Further investment will give us the money to expand our crowds and grow like sale in the area.

Without further investment we wont be able to compete its as simple as that, we will still plod around but our big chance this stadium has brought would have gone imo

Staying at the willows would have given us a slow death perhaps another 20 years of salford rlfc but nobodys is going to invest into a organisation which is slowly dying. Perhaps the bravest thing this club has ever done is taking the plunge with barton they went for it if they fail least they gave it a go...it was a poor go and it was a badly managed go...but it was a go all the same

Nail on head! Me, you, Walshy, KOTS, Iain, Chico even Martin LOL

Unfortunately he's still hammering down his epitaph! He even knows us and reads everything we say and wishes we didn't exist! Does he give a ? Nope and why should he? Dave (not his real name) Tarry has done well out of Wilko as have many of us but he and us realise things dont last forever!

I reckon the Sale Sharks should change their name to the CUCKOO`s. They stand back and watch somebody else do all the work and then just step in and take over the nest !!!!