To start my post I'm gonna say that I'm not 'for' or 'against' sale sharks moving in, up to now all I've heard that its gonna cut our costs which can only be a good thing! But I've also heard that sale moving in us gonna be the end of salford, all I ask is how? I don't know what sale did to Stockport county that was so bad, if Stockport county were doing so good before sale moved in why would they of sold them there stadium?

But like I said at the start of my post, I'm not for or against, so could someone please clarify why it is so bad that sale have moved in, I've asked a few salford fans at games who are against it already but none have been able to answer it!

Stockport fanzine reaction to Sale moving to Barton:

How??

We're still paying the same amount of rent with or without Sale. Tarry has already said it won't make any difference to us financially.

One thing that has always annoyed me is the promotion of the club. On the BBC there have been several articles about Sale and one thing is the constant sniping at the ridiculous 8000 attendance figure, whatever this figure signifies Cap or Break Even. Instead of being ale to be positive about the % average increase in crowds against what we had at the Willows all we get is "dissapointing" , below the figure they expected etc.
It may be a small thing to some but it impacts on the perception of the Club to the wider world and at the moment the impression we are giving from this and Tarrys comments about Sales moving is good because it reduces costs is of a club in turmoil whose move has not worked.
Obviously the article has links to several websites, bar ours.
I`m more worried about the long term future of the club than ever even had we not got a Franchise, i only hope i`m wrong.

See you all at Hudds !

There is 20 pages of reasons to wade through on here mate.

Gutted, what worries me is people around the area of the stadium who haven't been yet will start going watching Sale regularly I know Eccles RU is nearby and has quite a lot of members (some of my mates play for them as well) they'll definitely be going Sale I think over time it will eventually become their ground.

I'd give it a few months before people refer to it as 'Sale Sharks ground' the passer by probably won't know we play there, someone in the pub last night when the story was on sky sports news said it was 'Salford City FC's new ground'

and that's Salfordians for you.

Got a horrible feeling this is the beginning of the end for us, whether it be some stupid merger or 'super club' under the Manchester moniker or us just being booted out and ending up back in the lower leagues and ending up like Swinton.

I agree however the 8000 figure came from Salford openly quoting it in the press, meaning rightly or wrongly that it is now used to compare our crowds against by the media.

Quote ="irlamreddave"if Stockport county were doing so good before sale moved in why would they of sold them there stadium?'" The idea was to give both clubs more stability, they could work together, share marketing ideas and so on. Stockport were a league club when Sale moved in and doing alright - now they're a non-league club who've had to cut a heck of a lot of cloth in order to survive, even to the point where they may have to move out of Edgeley Park themselves. This article was written in 2009, when things were really starting to go downhill for Stockport: www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion ... 70857.html This bit being standing out for me: "But what Kennedy doesn't seem to understand is that among County's many, many problems, its biggest is its association with Sale Sharks. County's identity is being eaten away by that association. The club is losing its soul."

Quote ="irlamreddave"if Stockport county were doing so good before sale moved in why would they of sold them there stadium?'" The idea was to give both clubs more stability, they could work together, share marketing ideas and so on. Stockport were a league club when Sale moved in and doing alright - now they're a non-league club who've had to cut a heck of a lot of cloth in order to survive, even to the point where they may have to move out of Edgeley Park themselves. This article was written in 2009, when things were really starting to go downhill for Stockport: www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion ... 70857.html This bit being standing out for me: "But what Kennedy doesn't seem to understand is that among County's many, many problems, its biggest is its association with Sale Sharks. County's identity is being eaten away by that association. The club is losing its soul."

Without going into great detail I think what most Salford fans are worried about is a more professional outfit coming in and attracting bigger crowds/publicity etc and basically reducing Salford and rugby league to a second class operation.

OK I'll change it to - 'There is very little interest in RL in Salford' I'm not so sure you could argue against it mate.

Well at least thats a bit of good news.

Think there is some interest in the city Wayne. Whenever I go out people ask me what the score was and how we're doing etc, people in work have even been asking me recently. The problem is people still automatically associate Salford with 30+ years of crap and that's still putting people off. So now we're forever fighting an uphill battle to try and get fans back through the gate.

Quote ="Redfordanger"Well at least thats a bit of good news. '" Its not really news. The below has been posted a few times on this forum: No official time frames have been announced (other than the bits in yellow needing to be done before 50% of the warehousing in Port Salford is occupied*), but the project did get funding as part of the national infrastructure programme announced in November. * page 18 of... www.tfgm.com/ltp3/documents/LAIP ... 100511.pdf

Quote ="Redfordanger"Well at least thats a bit of good news. '" Its not really news. The below has been posted a few times on this forum: No official time frames have been announced (other than the bits in yellow needing to be done before 50% of the warehousing in Port Salford is occupied*), but the project did get funding as part of the national infrastructure programme announced in November. * page 18 of... www.tfgm.com/ltp3/documents/LAIP ... 100511.pdf

One Friday night next season, Salford v Wigan, 7000 attendence
The following Friday night, Sale V Munster, Heineken Cup, Sky Cameras there, 12000 attendence.

What will all the business heads think when this happens? Which club will be the one in the driving seat as to who calls the shots with the SALFORD Community Stadium?

I am hoping this is going to be a massive wake up call for Salford now. We need to advertise advertise advertise as much as we can now to pick the attendences up.

I understand people's cOncerns to an extent if sale were Infact buying the ground and not just sharing, and I might be being naive on the whole matter! That's why I ask the question, but in regards to what happened to Stockport county, it would be interesting to of seen where they would be now if anywhere if sale sharks had not moved in to edgely park and to see where they go now?

A very sad day, but unfortunately, one we all saw coming. If this isn't an admission that we are not capable of standing successfully on our own two feet, then I don't know what is.

We can all go on about how it could be worse, we could be Bradford, etc. But I have watched this club for nearly 30 years and put up with the rubbish on the field, because I always felt that at least we were a (relatively) well run club, unwilling to overstretch ourselves a la Widnes, Hull, Oldham, Wakefield, etc, etc. Now we are having to watch the local club from the sport that has done nothing but undermine the sport we are all so passionate about, march in, reaping the spoils from our clubs hard work, and not least, the sale of our century old home.

I am absolutely gutted that our club and supporters (financial and otherwise) have put so much effort into getting the stadium built, only to see it given over within 3 months of moving in.

And another thing, if their lot continue to call that kick and clap rubbish 'Rugby' when they are in our 'Rugby League' ground...

I reckon this has assisted the club with the pre-game music on Monday :-

It's the end of the world as we know it - REM

Enter sandman - METALLICA

Fear Of The Dark - IRON MAIDEN



Unless Sale can persuade all their supporters to travel the further distance and make inroads into a virgin territory then as the peripatetic club they have the most work to do.
There is a limit to the corporate hospitality and if SCR can maximise that then the greater sport with the better players should maintain their status quo.
If the people in charge of the club are happy with the outcome I see no reason for me to be depressed.
Most modern stadia need usage all the year round to be cost effective.

A message to the Sale Club, It's supporters and Rugby Union in general...................F*ck Off!

"It would be interesting to of seen where they would be now if anywhere if sale sharks had not moved in to edgely park and to see where they go now?"
County fans tell me that the financial input by Kennedy et al was in real terms neglible: they have lost many of their funding streams and have to pay for use of the ground (e.g. changing advertising boards at his rate). They are likely to be left with a heavily mortgaged ground and poor resources.

Dave Swanson will now post.

What?desert your club like rats the moment you think there might be a bleak future for you; whether it be five, ten or twenty years away?

Utter garbage!

You stick by your club no matter what.

The name of this thread should be changed. On Sale Sharks official website it states that you are both co tenants.

At the moment you are both a drop in the ocean in the manchester landscape, it's up to Salford to promote themselves, there's no point complaining about other clubs moving forward just because you want to stand still.

You're a good club that is improving on the pitch particularly in attacking plays and had increased attendance off the pitch.

Anyway the very fact that it's being referred to as Salford city stadium should be a boost in its own right for the reds.

This really could be the kick up the backside Salford need. There is a conurbation around the Barton stadium that is bigger and more untapped than any other in the world of rugby league, bar London. Salford could be a very well supported and sound financial club if the right recruitment drive to gain fans. Moving to the new stadium should be the start of the attraction to the club.

I work at a school in Wythenshawe and, recently, I was chatting to one of the classes of kids about rugby league (them knowing I was a fan) and they asked me what club I support (Warrington) and asked what club was closest to us in Wythenshawe and when I said "Salford City Reds" almost all of them had never heard of the club. Just 7 miles down the road, within the same connurbation, and the club hasn't reached out to us.

Now Salford have a start on where they can attract fans and they shouldn't miss this opportunity!

For now..............................................................................!?

Spot on!

Can just see it now in 2 or 3yrs time,Mr Kennedy funds stadium to go up to the 20,000,thus giving ss a mayor share in the shark stadium,like avit,walshy,DI,and the rest i cannot trust these leech`s,jesus i`m sick to the pit of my stomach,again we have to come together on this and fight our corner,otherwise we will quite simply die.