Improvement for last week and that will do me. Still giving away to many penalties. Got a lot more quality to add to the squad yet think we have all just got to be patient. Hopefully with the likes of Williams, gleeson, foran, fages in the team we can compete in a match just hope we work a bit harder on defence in training we look at bit suspect in that area at the minute.

Bloody defence. Our first signing should be a defensive coach. It is obvious P.V Defence coaching is not working

Or is it? Is it possible that this is the best our defense can be with the players we have, at this point in time? Put it another way. If the Langworthy under 14's were to play the under 16's, a team with more experience of playing together, a bit bigger and stronger than their younger counterparts, what would you expect to happen?

I'm not saying you're wrong, but what I am saying is that when you view the situation holistically, the picture isn't quite as obvious. Maybe we should wait until we actually have a team of snior players rather than an inexperienced, albeit eager team of kids with a sprinkling if moderate quality in the pack.

I've expressed my feelings about defense previously and wont go into it again for everyone's sake. Suffice to say that there is more to defense than just drilling it in training.

Morale, confidence, fitness, fatigue etc etc also play a big part in successful defense. It's quite plain to see that our team are somewhat low of confidence and it's reflected defensively. If you look at the errors (and where they were conceded) and penalties we have conceded is also a big factor in how many points we've shipped.

You can't turn the ball over to any team in your own third and expect not to concede off the next couple of sets. Once the team gets a few senior players back and the new signings settle down, we might see a change. So I kind of go with RP on this one, and say that things are not always as black and white as just getting a better defensive coach.

I can see where you are coming from, Red Preacher, and can agree with you to a point.
Let's hope new recruits can tighten our defence
But don't all teams have two assistance coaches, one attack one defence