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Quote: Starbug "I have to say I ' felt ' for you last night, yes your marketing has been abysmal, the stadium isn't an ideal design , and in truth not long finished, you have had the off season issue of your coach,

But to then plan an event, and have the weather basically detroy it, really is quite the worst luck you can imagine

You have a huge job on your hands to build a viable SL club, and I dont think you have the right people to achieve it, you need a coach, a CEO with the vision and ability to entice the local population of the area into the stadium, I hope you have more luck in that than you had last night'"

Many thanks! To sum up, it's not me telling everyone we need to move grounds and then it will magically turn round overnight and 10000 will turn up......it's the hierarchy as you say! Despite Wilkes loyalty he has not got the right people round him so he is shafted!
To allow SKY to show a more than half empty stadium and all the teething problems associated with it is absolute farce! Give the flipping things away but at least show an occasion! Forget 10000 at the willows for last match, half of them had gone after 50 mins when we were 30 points down.....this is the business end as they say, and as I say, there are "no more excuses"!!!

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Quote: middleman "I personally never like like to pass judgement of games in the heat of the moment. Find looking dispassionately after the game far better. IMO .

firstly I should like to say but for the Sky camera's that game would have been pulled .100% however both teams I thought delivered a good standard of rugby considering the conditions and the stage of the season we are at - round 1 .

Travelling into manchester at 2pm there was minimal traffic on the Motorways as most people had chosen not to venture out , it was not the conditions to attract a newbie to an outside event. We got 5200 to a game played in a blizzard that was on SKY , the same fixture played last year on a balmy summers evening last year attracted 3,500, the last SKY game we played on a Saturday got 2,500.

the corporate guests weren't faring much better

Very well put.

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Quote: middleman "SNIP'"



People like you make me sick, how dare you use common sense when all around the excepted norm is knee jerk reactions.

For the record on Saturday I thought our defensive line moved up in one more than any time over the past few seasons, thought again like the Wigan game that we put the players on thier back more than I've ever seen us do and thought that Patton showed how much of a threat he is going forward.

As for seeing that Godwin is out I'd be more than happy to let Howarth do as much of the 80 minutes as possible and maybe experiment with Moon and Houldsworth interchanging positions.

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Quote: Bigpev "So Gruffy if you are a councillor you are good for nothing, very strange line of thought, have you thought about what a councillor actually does, or who was to blame for the seat you were sat in?
Or who runs the city? can't be the councillors because they are good for nothing, must be the fairies with a little help from Santa in December.'"
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I didn't realise you were in the council Pev? Or going to stand for election? As for being good for nothings I can only speak from my own personal experience.

As to who paid for my seat - I will through tax. Where does the council's money come from santa? the fairies? or from unsecured long term loans offset against council tax for the next 30 years, you decide which one.

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Quote: Gruffy "What I found most galling last night, was not the abject performance, or lack of atmosphere or the hour stuck in traffic before the game, but was seeing all those good for nothing councillors with their free tickets and free meals, DID anyone notice apart from me the corporate seats where mostly empty five min into the second half? Give Councillor Merry his due he was there at the start of the second half be he did leave 10 mins before time, must have been trying to beat the traffic!!'"


Gruffy first of all its your opinion that it was an abject performance, I do not agree as considering the conditions both teams performed very well, Castleford better than we did.

I got there early and got parked up quite easily,despite the stewards attempts to make it difficult.

I left early as members of party had to catch a train from Piccadilly at 8.45pm,and I had to take them I didn't see John Merry leave at the same time and again despite the best attempts of the stewards we got away in about 15 minutes.


With regards the corporate seats I spent all my time watching the game not looking at the people in those seats and if when I take up the offer of a hospitality place which I will against Warrington I will please myself where I watch the match from, when I come out from the hospitality suite and if I knew your seat number area I will give you wave.

With regards the councillor's I am a long way off being a supporter of our council but I cannot accept your terminology that all these people are good for nothings as some of the ones that I know(from all parties) put a lot of work in on behalf of the local community and as long as the tickets / meals etc are listed on the expense claims there isn't a problem.

I will of course pay for my own hospitality later in the season!

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Guffy i didn't say paid for your seat, responsible for your seat, the council could have quite easily have said no, infact the Lib Dems and the Tories were against it because it wasn't a new members only golf course, but the council will make money from the deal as they can borrow at a lower rate than they lend out, as much as 3.5% - 4.5% difference. So a good deal for the council, no i am not a councillor just know quite a few who work full time as well as sit on the council and the various committees, but not all are the same granted.

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