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Quote: Prestwich Red "What the fook has shoppers going to the Trafford Centre got to do with a game of RL at the new stadium ?
Shocking attendance I agree but would you pay to watch that if you were a neutral or newbie when its on telly, its snowing and it its -5 in the ground with the wind chill.
Until we have a team that can win on a regular basis or a sugar daddy ala Warrington then expect more of the same'"

It's snowing, minus 5 and still 25000 go to Trafford centre! That's what!

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Quote: middleman "I personally never like like to pass judgement of games in the heat of the moment. Find looking dispassionately after the game far better. IMO .

firstly I should like to say but for the Sky camera's that game would have been pulled .100% however both teams I thought delivered a good standard of rugby considering the conditions and the stage of the season we are at - round 1 .

Travelling into manchester at 2pm there was minimal traffic on the Motorways as most people had chosen not to venture out , it was not the conditions to attract a newbie to an outside event. We got 5200 to a game played in a blizzard that was on SKY , the same fixture played last year on a balmy summers evening last year attracted 3,500, the last SKY game we played on a Saturday got 2,500.

the corporate guests weren't faring much better

Very well put.

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Quote: middleman "SNIP'"



People like you make me sick, how dare you use common sense when all around the excepted norm is knee jerk reactions.

For the record on Saturday I thought our defensive line moved up in one more than any time over the past few seasons, thought again like the Wigan game that we put the players on thier back more than I've ever seen us do and thought that Patton showed how much of a threat he is going forward.

As for seeing that Godwin is out I'd be more than happy to let Howarth do as much of the 80 minutes as possible and maybe experiment with Moon and Houldsworth interchanging positions.

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Quote: Bigpev "So Gruffy if you are a councillor you are good for nothing, very strange line of thought, have you thought about what a councillor actually does, or who was to blame for the seat you were sat in?
Or who runs the city? can't be the councillors because they are good for nothing, must be the fairies with a little help from Santa in December.'"
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I didn't realise you were in the council Pev? Or going to stand for election? As for being good for nothings I can only speak from my own personal experience.

As to who paid for my seat - I will through tax. Where does the council's money come from santa? the fairies? or from unsecured long term loans offset against council tax for the next 30 years, you decide which one.

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Quote: Gruffy "What I found most galling last night, was not the abject performance, or lack of atmosphere or the hour stuck in traffic before the game, but was seeing all those good for nothing councillors with their free tickets and free meals, DID anyone notice apart from me the corporate seats where mostly empty five min into the second half? Give Councillor Merry his due he was there at the start of the second half be he did leave 10 mins before time, must have been trying to beat the traffic!!'"


Gruffy first of all its your opinion that it was an abject performance, I do not agree as considering the conditions both teams performed very well, Castleford better than we did.

I got there early and got parked up quite easily,despite the stewards attempts to make it difficult.

I left early as members of party had to catch a train from Piccadilly at 8.45pm,and I had to take them I didn't see John Merry leave at the same time and again despite the best attempts of the stewards we got away in about 15 minutes.


With regards the corporate seats I spent all my time watching the game not looking at the people in those seats and if when I take up the offer of a hospitality place which I will against Warrington I will please myself where I watch the match from, when I come out from the hospitality suite and if I knew your seat number area I will give you wave.

With regards the councillor's I am a long way off being a supporter of our council but I cannot accept your terminology that all these people are good for nothings as some of the ones that I know(from all parties) put a lot of work in on behalf of the local community and as long as the tickets / meals etc are listed on the expense claims there isn't a problem.

I will of course pay for my own hospitality later in the season!

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Guffy i didn't say paid for your seat, responsible for your seat, the council could have quite easily have said no, infact the Lib Dems and the Tories were against it because it wasn't a new members only golf course, but the council will make money from the deal as they can borrow at a lower rate than they lend out, as much as 3.5% - 4.5% difference. So a good deal for the council, no i am not a councillor just know quite a few who work full time as well as sit on the council and the various committees, but not all are the same granted.

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