And you watched on tv?

Your turnstiles will be electronically counted, so any ' double ' sales wouldnt make any difference , 4,000 odd with probably your corporate sales all hiding in the bar

15 years is not THAT long of a time. I accept that many new fans will have replaced some of the older ones since then. But a good proportion of those "veterans" will still be around. In any case - I'm not entirely convinced by the idea that supporters gathered over the past decade are somehow soft. Why should a match that was appealing, say, ten years ago be any less appealing today? And let's be honest - the opening match to a new season in a brand new stadium is about as appealing as it gets.

15 years is 3X5 : as a rule of thumb, society changes by a great deal every 5 years. Therefore it is a long time. Think of what were common activities 10 years ago: remember videos, pubs, going to sports (outside football). Not Sky+, supermarker beer at home, and wall - to - wall sports on demand in the home.
Disagree: basing any marketing for a fringe sport, such as Rugby League, on what would have been acceptable 5/10/15 years ago is doomed.

EXACTLY!

2009 = 3,487
2010 = 3,130
2011 = 3,587
Best Crowd against Castleford for 4 years and in atrocious weather.....I would hold judgement on the "crowd issue" until at least 3 more games.....before kicking off about the marketing dept. Hull FC (3,983),us cock-er-nees (3,065) and Leeds (4,024) will be a better gague of where you are.....14,659 in 2011 for your first 4 home games...only 9,417 more to equal that. I reckon you'll be close to 20% up by the time you play Wigan.
Good luck for the rest of the season......

I'm with you on that GF. A warm summers day would've probably doubled the crowd so as disappointed as I am by the low turnout, I'll hold off on judgment for a few weeks. Oh & while we're on the subject of fans, for want of a better word, being "softer" these days, I agree 100%. I never thought I'd join the "when I was a lad" brigade at the age of 34 but I can't believe what a bunch of mard ar$e$ society have become. Professional footballers wearing tights, gloves & snoods, my U15's team turning up for training in ear muffs & bobble hats, it's embarrassing!

I even had one lad admit to missing training last week "because it was raining"!

. Get the wintergreen out & man up FFS!