O/T Ryan Giggs

Quote: Michigan red " Union whilst not being a patch on SL at club level will always for me wipe the floor with League on an international basis,

Union has a far bigger worldwide audience, bigger attendances & far better TV coverage. With regards quality of rugby I'd still watch Tri-Nations RL over Six Nations RU anyday.

Quote: Michigan red " as i've said before coming from a Welsh family i've had the pleasure of attending a 6 nations game at the Millenium stadium and the atmosphere generated by the crowd is unlike anything i've come even remotely near to at any RL game.

Unlucky
Well I attended the England France game over in Doncaster and if the comedy band is what you call atmosphere it was excellent, if not it was dire and was one of the first times at a game of RL that i'd have happily back doored it and left early. I think until the RL see that we can only compete as a GB & I team then international RL will be of no great quality on a regular basis.

I would suggest that if you brought your uncle to a game that is gauranteed to have a decent crowd and a free flowing game then he would enjoy himself, a few years ago when I lived in Monton the lad next door was from Bath and a confirmed RU fan but I took him to a few games and is now an unashamed RL fan as well, he agreed with me in that club games are much more entertaining in RL (well apart from some of the big South West derbies in RU).

Have to agree with you on the Lions thing, though do think if enough RL fans went on a large scale RL trip down under to follow the RL Lions on a 3 test tour with say 3 weeks of warm up games and a midweek game when the tests were on that it could generate the same excitment, though I think possibly the appeal of the RU Lions is the sheer numbers who travel. It harks back to what I said before that we need a BG & I team who have more than an outside chance of winning one game to make it appealing, the fact that currently we have a brilliant crop of youngesters coming through would suggest that better tiems arent that far away - though of course it could just be another false dawn.