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Possibly a two tier super league Structure? Example.

Randomly picked leagues at the beginning of the season with grand finalist confirmed as tier 1 and tier 2. Seeded pots - Grand Finalist, SL criteria, overseas teams, french teams.

No more than 4 overseas teams in a league. One french team per league.

Seeds

Grand Finalist - Leeds, St Helens
French Teams - Catalan, Toulouse.
SL Critieria - Wakefield, Huddersfield, Hull FC, Hull KR, York, Bradford, Castleford, Featherstone, London, Newcastle, Wigan, Warrington, Salford, Leigh, Widnes,
Overseas - New York, Ottawa, Red Star Belgrade, Valencia, Toronto.

SL Tier 1 - Leeds, Wakefield, Huddersfield, Hull FC, Hull KR, York, Bradford, Castleford, Featherstone, Toronto, Valencia, Toulouse.

SL Tier 2 - Wigan, Warrington, Widnes, St Helens, Salford, Leigh, Newcastle, London, Ottowa, Red Star Belgrade, New York RL, Catalans.

22 games - play each other twice home and away.
Top 4 from each League together, play each other once - 7 games.
Top 4 - 1 v 4, 2 v 3.
Grand final.

Championship 14 team league playing each other twice.

Bottom 2 of tier 1 and bottom 2 of tier 2 into a league with top 4 of championship, play each other once, top three promoted and then 4 v 5 MPG.

CC games as normal.

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I've read some sh*t on here in my time but this is up there with some of the biggest b*ll*cks ever. Seriously.

There isn't a big enough player pool for 12 Super League teams, let alone 24!

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Quote: Happy One "I've read some sh*t on here in my time but this is up there with some of the biggest b*ll*cks ever. Seriously.

There isn't a big enough player pool for 12 Super League teams, let alone 24!'"

Another dreamer or is it is nightmare or has he been on the wacky bacca

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Quote: Someday "Another dreamer or is it is nightmare or has he been on the wacky bacca'"

If he's been on the weed I want his dealer's number as it must be good sh*t. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Happy One "I've read some sh*t on here in my time but this is up there with some of the biggest b*ll*cks ever. Seriously.

There isn't a big enough player pool for 12 Super League teams, let alone 24!'"
there would be enough players but I would say the quality would drop massively

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Quote: snowie "there would be enough players but I would say the quality would drop massively'"


I'm not sure there would? Aren't TWP short because players do not want to live and play out of a suitcase? They can only get average players by paying top dollars? But maybe you can get poorer quality players, especially youngsters if you pay them all £50K a year plus massive expenses. But where do average Championship players take you? Where have above average Championship players and a couple of good Aussies taken Toronto?.

The rush for Ottawa to start next January and an equal desperation for New York to be validated by starting at the same time only via friendlies and I assume a short Challenge Cup adventure is down to Ralph Rimmer and whoever is left at the RFL sanctioning these clubs in arrangement with Perez and Wilby. I think this is politics more that it is sport and given that Superleague do not want North American clubs, and the RFL want to survive being left out of the SKY deal, is Rimmer (on the advice of Perez) actually building an alternative "world league" in the Championships where TWP are on course to land, in the hope that they can get a North American TV deal?

Imagine if they did and it was bigger than SKY's reduced deal?? what do you think?

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Quote: Happy One "I've read some sh*t on here in my time but this is up there with some of the biggest b*ll*cks ever. Seriously.

There isn't a big enough player pool for 12 Super League teams'"


There's a big enough player pool for a league containing New York, Catalans, Toronto, Toulouse, Ottawa and five English clubs including Bradford. You may think this is manure and gonads but would you put it past Perez and Rimmer not to tout this possibility across all North American broadcasters?

They drop on a much bigger NATV deal and the player pool possibly follows the money......

If they do not try it the dream dies, and it costs nowt to try it......

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Maybe if the financial investment they are talking about comes off (like F1) they may insist on development at each club with a timeline to have X number of home grown players in each team/squad.

With all these new clubs coming along I don't think it will be long before we go back to franchising and get rid of P&R

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Quote: wire-quin "Maybe if the financial investment they are talking about comes off (like F1) they may insist on development at each club with a timeline to have X number of home grown players in each team/squad.

With all these new clubs coming along I don't think it will be long before we go back to franchising and get rid of P&R'"


IF the game is serious about expanding, there has to be protection for any promoted club, especially those from outside "the heartlands".

Currently there are shrinking numbers of junior players, which eventually means shrinking numbers of quality players for the pro clubs, which in terms of the N. American experiment leads to a classic catch 22 situation.

In the short term, if there are 4/5 new overseas clubs, with no way of producing their own (or any) players, necessarily, they have to use players produced from this shrinking pool of youngsters, which means even fewer players to go round the pro clubs.

One of the reasons that, a few seasons ago, the league was cut from 14 to 12 clubs and proposed to be cut further 10 club - a move that was rejected - was that there were too few players of sufficient quality.
However, it now seems that there is an endless supply of new talent, enough in fact to allow, Toronto, Ottawa, New York, Valencia etc, etc to form sides and compete within the current structure.

Of course, it COULD be that these new clubs MIGHT be able to generate sufficient interest to spark a fully fledged junior set up in their own backyard. Indeed, Toronto were going to tap in to the huge pool of "rejected" gridiron players and although there is very little evidence of this, it's early days and something COULD still happen.

The sensible way forward is to find a way to give the new clubs a chance but, without destroying the current sides ,just in case the experiment fails but, just for a change, there is no bloody plan and we have to remember that the last major re structure - the failed 3 x 8 system, lasted 3 seasons before being binned off.

We've also had the absolute joke funding in the Championship, where the top 4 get a reasonable wedge, with the rest getting close to nothing, which massively destabilises any club dropping out of the top 4.

There is a huge conundrum for the game to solve, on jut how to get the best out of developing the game in new territories and there is a level of investment being thrown in by some very wealthy individuals, that we havent seen in RL for decades but, what is the actual plan and more importantly, is it actually sustainable, properly sustainable - you know, not just in Nigel Woods or Robert Elstones head but reasonably certain to succeed and if it is, could someone tell us where the game is heading.

Is the "plan" to have an international league or maybe a seperate league in N. America or SL1 & 2 or conferences or, is this another close your eyes and cross your fingers exercise ?

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Quote: Donnyman "There's a big enough player pool for a league containing New York, Catalans, Toronto, Toulouse, Ottawa and five English clubs including Bradford. You may think this is manure and gonads but would you put it past Perez and Rimmer not to tout this possibility across all North American broadcasters?'"

Mr Rimmer has nothing to do with Super League and neither will Mr Perez while they are in League One.

When will people realise the RFL now have NOTHING to do with any decision Super League make d040.gif

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Quote: Happy One "Mr Rimmer has nothing to do with Super League and neither will Mr Perez while they are in League One.

When will people realise the RFL now have NOTHING to do with any decision Super League make
That’s no bad thing as the RFL have lost the plot, part time players flying the Atlantic to play full time players in different time zones it’s madness !!

Well hopefully for the RFL Big Toronto will beat Lil Huddersfield tonight.... although the bookies are giving Toronto 20pts start a ridiculous amount for a Challenge Cup tie with two evenly matched teams on paper.

But maybe like last Friday lil Huddersfield will man up again and get the win.....

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Quote: Happy One "Mr Rimmer has nothing to do with Super League and neither will Mr Perez while they are in League One.

When will people realise the RFL now have NOTHING to do with any decision Super League make
Why don't you go back and read my post properly d040.gif

Yes your right Superleague rule the roost and make all the decisions (and they want Toronto out and to cut the RFL adrift.)

That clearly leaves the RFL's only alternative, which is to pal up with Perez and all the other NA clubs he apparently is inspiring, on the hope that he can get a bigger deal from NATV.

Work it out - SL are offered £150M by SKY for an English League. .........NATV offer the RFL £300M for a Transatlantic League.

Who rules the roost then?

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NATV aren't going to offer £300 million. That's fantasy island thinking my friend.

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Quote: Donnyman "Why don't you go back and read my post properly
You appear to have joined the dreamers.
Where on earth will this come from "NATV offer the RFL £300M for a Transatlantic League."

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