GAME ON : Salford Reds Devils v Leeds Rhinos - 14:00:00 GENERAL CHAT ABOUT THE GAME, BUILD UP, THE ACTION AS IT HAPPENS AND AFTERMATH BELOW.

Great this , it is showing how bad Hull k R . really are

This clown Griffiths should never referee in SL again. Absolute disgrace and gifted Leeds this match.

Not sure he got a great report from his last game

You had 4 penalties on our line at one point but you couldn’t score, infact you gifted us the ball and we scored the winning try, the blame does not lie with the ref for that.

He was whistle happy for both sides

The winning try? You were already 10 points up so the game was dead at that point with 3-4 minutes left.

He did the standard ref thing of evening the penalty count up after he'd completely killed the game. For 15-20 minutes at the start of the 2nd half he gave you set after set on our line which resulted in 2 tries. By the time you went 2 scores up the game was finished as we'd not touched the ball for 15 minutes and we were completely f*cked.

Bout time we got the rub of the green off a ref

I’ll admit he was poor for both sides but you know damn well those 4 penalties were in garbage time after the dodgy decisions just after half time had played a part in turning the game. Seemed like he was trying to even the penalty count up.

Full credit to Leeds but that was a poor refereeing performance that seemed to impact us more. That being said, the injuries (we had one hooker on the bench from 50 mins onwards) played a bigger part than the ref.

There was more than 10 minutes to go when you got those penalties, had you been able to score you could have been 1 score behind with 10 minutes to go, the fact you threw it away and we actually scored is not the refs fault, neither is the fact we took our chances and you didn’t.

As you rightly point out losing those players took its toll in the end.

There was 10minutes left, but don’t let the facts spoil your rant

My bad it was the 71st minute when you scored your last try.

And like I've posted on your forum, when you've defended for 20 minutes in the 2nd half due to constant penalties against you then we clearly had f*ck all in the tank when Griffiths tried to even the penalty count up.

On a positive note we'll be absolutely fine. There are worse teams than us and we've got the best coach in SL. Last year was a whirlwind and not likely to be repeated soon but some of the drivel I've read from Leeds fans saying we'll be battling it out for the wooden spoon with Toronto is laughable.

Based on today, if we're in a relegation scrap then the "mighty" Leeds won't be too far ahead of us!

I don’t disagree with you and hadn’t mentioned how long was left. But I’m sure you’d have preferred to have a cluster of daft penalties when the game was tight just after half time rather than 2 scores down towards the end with an exhausted pack? Anyway, congratulations to Leeds. On we go.

Obviously, Leeds fans will say the referee didn’t affect the result of the game and Salford will say that he did.

Griffiths is from Widnes and so am I, but he was awful today and after the crowd called him out for a bad decision, he seemed to take it out on Salford.

We desperately need referees and he is only 25 - he had a very poor game but should improve with experience. What isn’t fair is that if players have bad games they are “rested” and just because we are short of referees doesn’t mean that this common sense rule shouldn’t be applied.

Refs do get better with experience. Look at Child, he's no worse than appalling these days

What did he do so badly? Was it the way he controlled the game, policed the PTB etc? Or was it just that he gave a bunch of decisions that you didn't agree with?

If it's the latter then what I will say is that without the benefit of TV replays the refs have a much better view than you do most of the time. Complaining about a ref in a non televised game always just smacks of sour grapes to me. You have no idea whether he got his decisions correct or not in most cases.