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The race for the Championship top 4 is really tense. Looking at the remaining fixtures the only way I can see Leigh breaking into the top 4 is if Toronto and Toulouse win all their remaining games, specifically the ones below. How ironic that some on here are likley to be backing those two clubs for the next four weeks.

Toulouse v London
Halifax v Toulouse
Toronto v Featherstone

Current table
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Toulouse 28
Featherstone 28
Halifax 27
London 26
Leigh 24

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It won't register my attempt to vote for some reason. I would have voted Toronto, Toulouse, Featherstone and Leigh.


As Toronto are already guaranteed to make the top 4 do they really need to be in the poll though?

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Making an assumption that the top 6 will beat their bottom 6 opposition when they play them, and Toronto win all their remaining games, then the only way that Leigh maybe don't make the top 4 is if 4 out of these 5 games finish with...

- London beat Toulouse today
- Fax beat Fev tomorrow
- London beat Fax
- Fev beat London
- Fax beat Toulouse

... in which case Fax will be 2nd on 33 points with the other 4 all on 32 points. So, down to points difference for 3rd to 6th - with Leigh quite likely to have overhauled the others given the assumption that they win all 4 games against bottom 6 opposition. A different result in one of these games means someone finishes on 30 or 31 points (and 6th place), in which case it's Leigh and one other team on 32 points.

32 points is likely to see any team in the top 4, with only an unlikely set of results resulting in anyone missing out on points difference.

Of course, if any of the top 6 slip up against bottom 6 opposition, or if Fev somehow manage to win in Toronto then this all changes.

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Still think Leigh will get in. Given the amount of games the other sides have against each other. Be tight though.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Clickbait thread.....well done, I clicked!
We already have such a poll started by another poster (sic)

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Haven't you already done a poll similar to this

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The original post here was actually fairly sensible, other than the referral to Leigh, when it turned into the same old troll post. Other than Toronto, Leigh are probably most likely to join them in the top 4 given the remaining fixtures (especially with TO failing to beat London today). Fax need to win 3 from 4.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "The race for the Championship top 4 is really tense. Looking at the remaining fixtures the only way I can see Leigh breaking into the top 4 is if Toronto and Toulouse win all their remaining games, specifically the ones below. How ironic that some on here are likley to be backing those two clubs for the next four weeks.

Toulouse v London
Halifax v Toulouse
Toronto v Featherstone

Current table
Toronto 35
Toulouse 28
Featherstone 28
Halifax 27
London 26
Leigh 24'"


Why are you so concerned whether Leigh get top 4 or not? (you are obviously worried), you are really obsessed with Leigh aren't you?
If Leigh do get in that top 4, then Toronto will have the shock of their lives,because Leigh and the other two will step up, and all the 4 Superleague clubs will put them to the sword. c020.gif

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Quote: Call Me God "Clickbait thread.....well done, I clicked!
We already have such a poll started by another poster (sic)'"


The 2 polls ask significantly different questionsthink will make it (Top 4)'[/i and the other 'who do you [iwant to be promoted[/i'............

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Quote: Mr Dog "The 2 polls ask significantly different questionsthink will make it (Top 4)'[/i and the other 'who do you [iwant to be promoted[/i'............'"

No, they are identical.

I hope no team gets promoted, none deserve it. Back to franchising for me, leave the minnows to flounder.

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No they are not identical, the teams I want to be promoted are unlikely to be the ones I think will be promoted.

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Leigh will finish on 32 points. They have a very positive points difference which is only going to get better with 3 more wins. So any other club wanting to be in the top 4 needs to beat this total.

Toronto are in.

Toulouse (Barrow, Halifax and Dewsbury left) have a good points difference and need 3 more points. They should beat Barrow and Dewsbury, so they're in, irrespective of the Halifax result.


Halifax (London, Toulouse and Rochdale left) absolutely have to win at least two of these. Rochdale should be a banker, but they need a win against London or Toulouse.

Featherstone (Swinton, London and Toronto) will likely lose at Toronto and will likely win at Swinton. So they have to beat London to have a chance.

London (Halifax, Featherstone and Barrow) have to win all three.


Likely outcome of those crucial games where these clubs play each other, based on current league positions:

Toulouse (W) v Halifax

London v Halifax (W)

Fev(W) v London

Fev v Toronto (W)

Finishing points:

Toronto - 43
Toulouse - 35
Halifax - 33
Featherstone - 32
Leigh - 32
London - 29


Leigh or Featherstone would then qualify on points difference. You'd expect Leigh to rack up more in their three wins against lower teams than fev will in their two wins against upper teams. Also, Toronto have been handing out big thumpings in Canada, and Featherstone might be in trouble there.

Couple of wildcards.

Halifax play Toulouse in Halifax. Not impossible to see that as a Halifax win. In which case Fax finish on 35, and Toulouse are on 33. But both would still be safe.


On the other hand, Halifax play London at London, and as London will be desperate next week, there could be a loss there. That would be great news for Leigh fans, as it would almost certainly put Halifax out of the picture, without putting London in it, with both finishing on 31 points, and Leigh on 4th without needing to rely on points difference.


Of course, there might be shocks from the lower teams along the way, but it seems unlikely. Which means that for Leigh fans, they'll be cheering on London against Fax, and cheering on Toronto to rack up a big score against Featherstone. It would also be better on balance for Toulouse to beat Fax.


Given the predispositions of some posters on this board, I find it a delicious irony that Leigh fans will almost certainly be relying on the three expansion teams of Toronto, Toulouse and London to keep their hopes of a top four place alive.

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Updated table

Toronto 37 +422
Toulouse 29 +375
Halifax 29 +192
Featherstone 28 +332
London 27 +409
Leigh 26 +269

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



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Finishing points
London Leigh and Toronto are the only ones to leave France with any points yet you have us losing to Fax at Home and then away to Fev, who we dismantled earlier in the season...? I see London winning all three which will suit Leigh
Toronto 43
Toulouse 35
London 33
Leigh 32
Fax 31
Fev 30

I hope nobody goes up, because with Bradford in this mix next year, the Championship will AGAIN be more exciting than the stupor League.....and Toronto will have to travel each week........

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Quote: Roy Haggerty "Leigh will finish on 32 points. They have a very positive points difference which is only going to get better with 3 more wins. So any other club wanting to be in the top 4 needs to beat this total.
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Did you look at the league table before you posted this? Out of the top 6, only Halifax have a worse points difference than Leigh. Fev are 60+ points better off and London a whopping 140!

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