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Looking at the league table and recent form, what is going on at Warrington and if a few weeks guidance by Tim Sheens can be so effective (at Salford),
perhaps all clubs should employ him in short stints.
Warrington have dipped alarmingly and Salford are starting to look like top 4 contenders.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Looking at the league table and recent form, what is going on at Warrington and if a few weeks guidance by Tim Sheens can be so effective (at Salford),
perhaps all clubs should employ him in short stints.
Warrington have dipped alarmingly and Salford are starting to look like top 4 contenders.'"


See how they go once Chase cops a ban, nasty little git.

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Maybe its the Agar effect at the Wire!

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Quote: rover49 "See how they go once Chase cops a ban, nasty little git.'"


Nobody will argue with that but, the turn around since Sheens cam over is staggering.

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Personally I don't think that Warrington have found a playmaker to replace Lee Briers yet. I'm also wondering whether Tony Smith's been there a bit too long and they need a fresh face as head coach.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Nobody will argue with that but, the turn around since Sheens cam over is staggering.'"


I think you've got to be careful heaping the praise in only one direction. Sheens status in the game and the respect he's offered mean that when he has something to say people listen. I don't doubt this. But Salfords rise has also coincided with getting a lot more things right off the field too, for which Harris should take credit for. Salford also had a tough start to the season facing Wire away then Saints at home at a time where teams were yet to settle. The only blip after this being Cas away, which as we know, is a tough ask anyway and pretty much our bogey side over the last few seasons. We've beaten Hull, Widnes, Wakey, Hudds and Wigan. But the turning point for me, was the draw away to Catalans. Not so much in the performance, but for the never give in attitude, something that the team lacked previously. That belief and willingness to fight for each other (Literally in some cases) goes a long way in telling you the real reason for Salford's current success.

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Thin it's simply the face that the players at Salford are gelling now! They have top quality over the pitch! Now they are getting that understanding! Wire lost too much expeirance at key positions. Briers and Monaghan haven't been replaced! Clark has been disappointing! They need a class halfback and quick

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Quote: oggy123 "Thin it's simply the face that the players at Salford are gelling now! They have top quality over the pitch! Now they are getting that understanding! Wire lost too much expeirance at key positions. Briers and Monaghan haven't been replaced! Clark has been disappointing! They need a class halfback and quick'"


You need to take the shackles off Clark, not sure what game plan Smith is playing him to but it's not working. You've taken the current MOS and asked him to play in a completely different way.

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Salford Red Devils RLFC. [quote="Gotcha":y7izhg01]Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.[/quote:y7izhg01]:



Coincidental our recent good form has come following a 3 week visit from Tim Sheens? Who knows, I there are plenty of factors such as releasing Gareth Hock but one thing for sure is Iestyn Harris deserves plenty of praise too. He's recruited well since he took over as head coach, he's got us playing tough, aggressive and skilful RL and the team spirit is extremely high.

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Salford simply lie offside and slow the ptb down - difference is they are getting away with it, probably copied Saints after being tonked

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Quote: maurice "Salford simply lie offside and slow the ptb down - difference is they are getting away with it, probably copied Saints after being tonked'"


Most clubs do that and there is no doubt that if you do it well, you will have an advantage but, they (Salford) now seem to be playing with belief that wasn't there at the start of the season.

Warrington on the other hand..........................

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Quote: maurice "Salford simply lie offside and slow the ptb down - difference is they are getting away with it, probably copied Saints after being tonked'"


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Good effort Mo. Make sure you watch the highlights later today, we scored some fantastic tries against Wigan. Particularly Ben Jones-Bishops individual effort, what a player that lad is.

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It also coincided with Hock leaving. Was he a negative influence on playmakers like Chase?

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Warrington=Agar!

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Quote: John Gilbert Reds "Coincidental our recent good form has come following a 3 week visit from Tim Sheens? Who knows, I there are plenty of factors such as releasing Gareth Hock but one thing for sure is Iestyn Harris deserves plenty of praise too. He's recruited well since he took over as head coach, he's got us playing tough, aggressive and skilful RL and the team spirit is extremely high.'"


I stood at Salford yesterday thinking to myself about how you've picked up since Hock left. Whilst at Wigan we didn't win a thing yet whilst he was banned or when he left we picked up plenty.

2010-Banned-Won LLS and Grand Final

2011- Banned half the season- Won Challenge cup

2012- Played all year- Won LLS but flopped in semis of both CC and GF.

2013- Left- Won the CC and GF double.

Makes you wonder.

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