Just watching Boots n all and they have talked to the owner of Bradford, then the owner of Wakey.

I will be honest, Green wouldnt fill me with confidence if I was a Bradford team. The way he came across to me was that he was appealing the points loss so that if they didnt get a reduction, or all the points back, well then its the RFL's fault they get relegated. At least thats how it came across to me.

Wakey meanwhile maintain they could have gone in to admin just like Bradford but did the "right thing" by paying off debts, securing loans against their own homes, and losing good players in the process, hence their lack of success this season up to now.

Awful situations, but I must admit I kinda side with Wakey on this one. Green maintained that they have quality players and made no mention of new players or coaching staff, but seems to be hoping that the RFL save them by giving the points back.

Thoughts/opinions?

I have every sympathy with Bradford's players, staff and supporters but I too side with Wakefield.

I too have fallen for carters oft repeated claim that if they'd have gone into admin they would have been kicked out of superleague.

Despite the lack of any proof I therefore also side with wakey.

The only ones I feel sorry for are Bradford's long list of creditors. In this game though they're likely to get better treatment and I expect that because of their fan base alone they'll have points reinstated.

I all so feel for the fans but if they give them their points back every team will feel its ok if we get into trouble do has Bradford and the RFL will save us, take it and go down but come back stronger stop begging

Points deducted for going into admin and having been on RFL life support for many months.
Because they are no longer in admin, this penalty is no longer applicable, well that's ok then.

Only way bulls will get 6 points back is if the independent review find this could have been avoided and it was all the RFL's fault. Not going to happen. Most we can hope for is to get 2 points back.

Thought Green was a little defensive, thought Carter came across very well and can't disagree with anything he has said.

PumptyPump, while there may not be any "proof" Surely the RFL would have released a statement if this wasn't true.

i'm not aware of any precedent for the rfl issuing statements to refute the various fictional conspiracy theories they face on a daily basis.

They responded to mark moore for example only because of his own press statement which made serious accusations.

How is that legal battle going BTW?

As I have said before, the idea that we should deduct points from Bradford at this point is stupid. It makes no sense, achieves nothing and punishes the wrong people.

The vague threat that Michael Carter is saying he was given is simply playing to the crowd, tapping in to Wakefield’s victim complex.


The idea he has tried to propagate that Bradford havent had to 'cut their cloth' and have kept their squad together is just embarrassing in its stupidity, this is a Bradford side which finished 4 points from the play-offs last year and have only won 4 points in total this year.

Im not surprised that Michael Carter is trying it, im just surprised people fall so easily for such an obviously wrong narrative

Because the reason owners try and keep a club out of admin isn’t to save their investment of hundreds of thousands, if not millions in the club, its not the professional embarrassment, the only thing that is stopping them is the threat that someone else might buy the club and have a points penalty.

What came across to me was that Green is the sort of person I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw Nigel Woods, definitely someone I'd be VERY careful dealing with!

Come on Smokey, you're better than that.
RL (and other sports) are struggling with HMRC, due to the numbers of clubs using the admin route to wipe the slate clean, which is why the penalties in the round ball game have increased over recent years.
Are you really saying that clubs avoid admin to prevent their new owners suffering a points deduction.
I know that you like to provoke a reaction on here but, this is just plain bonkers.

Businesses go into admin "to protect the business from its creditors" or occasionally to allow new owners to buy the business for very little but allowing the business to survive.

To be fair to Green he appeared to have a very clean plan to buy the Odsal development land.

Smokey, you´re right except that you underestimate the ability of VT buffoons and trolls.