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2015 holds probably the biggest changes to Rugby League's structure since 1996. Potentially we could see Rugby League in the most radical structure of any leagues, and we will at least see the allure of relegation to liven up the competitions bottom.

What's everyone hoping to get out of the restructure? Everyone's preferences? Personally I think 12-12/8-8-8 is the best system that can deliver competitive matches throughout. It'll also allow continued improvement for clubs.

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Quote: Conorgiantsfan "2015 holds probably the biggest changes to Rugby League's structure since 1996. Potentially we could see Rugby League in the most radical structure of any leagues, and we will at least see the allure of relegation to liven up the competitions bottom.

What's everyone hoping to get out of the restructure? Everyone's preferences? Personally I think 12-12/8-8-8 is the best system that can deliver competitive matches throughout. It'll also allow continued improvement for clubs.'"


How do you get that? how are the top 4 part time teams going to compete with the bottom 4 full time teams?

A SL of 10 teams playing each other 3 times will increase the weekly intensity with a three year licence, then a lower league of 10 with an opportunity to apply for a licence in yr 3.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "How do you get that? how are the top 4 part time teams going to compete with the bottom 4 full time teams?

A SL of 10 teams playing each other 3 times will increase the weekly intensity with a three year licence, then a lower league of 10 with an opportunity to apply for a licence in yr 3.'"


How the hell can the games governing body be trusted to award a licence ?
Although the current system does have some plus points, especially the introduction of young British players, the farce of grading the 14 SL clubs is just an embarrassment.

Apart form that, the 2 x 12 and 3 x8 is a done deal :CRAZY

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There are people who still favour a licensing system?

Really? icon_lol.gif

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Licensing if done properly is the best way forward imo

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1 up, 1 down for me.

The split is a just another RFL "innovative fantasy land idea"

I found it very interesting the other week on SL backchat that (Gareth Walker i think) said that the RFL spent 90 minutes discussing and explain the "split" option to the championship club, yet spent a few minutes explaining the other plans. I also heard that the RFL promised extra fund to the championship clubs if they vote in favour of the split.

If the RFL are so hell bent on getting this idea through the door, why didn't they tell everyone what was happening in March instead of dragging it on for months. I'm all for having an all game debate, but quite frankly it was never a debate, it has just been months of the RFL trying to convince the clubs to go a long with their idea. Then if/when it goes belly up, the RFL aren't accountable as they will claim the other clubs voted for it. The RFL are desperate for this idea to go through, but won't have the nuts to put their head on the block and make the decision themselves.

I don't think it will work, the second league under the "super 8" will be a disaster, the championship/part time clubs like Featherstone, Sheffield, Halifax won't be able to compete as they will still be a part time team. The relegated clubs won't really be bothered about playing for the trophy as it means nothing. I know some people keep saying as a player, you always want to win any trophy. Players don't pay bills, fans do, and will fans want to pay money to see their side comfortably beat the part time clubs, then try fight it out for a "taking part cup"

As a fan i would not be interested in watching that, it would not entertain me. I would not be bothered if my team then won the trophy of the second tier, the team have not achieved anything.

I would support them and go to every game still if they were relegated to the championship however.

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Quote: William Eve "There are people who still favour a licensing system?

Really?
P&R would be OK if the lower tier were all FT but as they are not the promoted team simply morphs into the relegated team from the higher league not sure what that really adds.

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Great less ft clubs and the chance for some poor sap to yoyo up and down. The chance to see ft clubs thrash pt clubs for half a season. Can't wait!

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If they want to reintroduce automatic P&R then they should do it properly, that being straight one up-one down. Yeah, clubs would go bust, we'd have totally unsuitable clubs in Super League, the standard of the league would go backwards and the sport would be ridiculously unstable, but that's what P&R is all about. Don't introduce some contrived BS, either keep the successful and logical license system that exists at present or introduce automatic P&R and allow things to run their course.

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Licensing could have worked if the RFL had actually enforced the rules on a few clubs and be seen to be fair. Licensing has enabled teams to develop and play youngsters without threat of relegation, it's made several clubs improve or build brand new stadia. Licencing did done good stuff, but as with everything the RFL do, they never stuck with it.

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Quote: William Eve "There are people who still favour a licensing system?

Really?
Yep, add me to that list.

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Until you have two full leagues of Fulltime professionals P & R in any format wont work. Licensing, if done properly, is the current and only way at the moment that the Sport can stop free-falling. The awarding of licenses has been very suspect but the benefits of bringing new stadia and young players through has made up for it.

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Like to see the split option trialled for 2 seasons, for me first part of season would have more intensity than what we have at the moment.
Second part of season might see one part time club breaking into top 12 the year after, Featherstone for example.

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I'm not overly concerned. But stating the rfl should just impose a system shows a lack of comprehension about what the rfl can and can't do.

The chairmen control the game.

The rfl can't impose a system even if they wanted to.

That power was sold at the advent of SL.

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