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On the back of the slightly cringe-worthy piece by Phil Clarke on Sky just now, I am interested to know of the last 10 years of Super League (2003 onwards), how many Grand Final winners played for Wigan amateur clubs or Wigan Youth as juniors. Also how does this compare to other areas of the country?

Clarke's point for those who missed it was that Wigan produce more talented players than anywhere else.

I will start with the easy one, the Wigan side who won the 2010 Grand Final, I make that one 8:

S Tomkins
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M McIlorum
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From a Wigan fan, that segment was unbelievably cringey.

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Quote: TheUnassumingBadger "On the back of the slightly cringe-worthy piece by Phil Clarke on Sky just now, I am interested to know of the last 10 years of Super League (2003 onwards), how many Grand Final winners played for Wigan amateur clubs or Wigan Youth as juniors. Also how does this compare to other areas of the country?

Clarke's point for those who missed it was that Wigan produce more talented players than anywhere else.

I will start with the easy one, the Wigan side who won the 2010 Grand Final, I make that one 8

Isn't Mcllorum a Leeds lad? And S Tompkins played for Crosfields in Warrington before going to Wigan St Patricks for a year before being signed up.

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Right you are, McIlorum is from Leeds, I think they signed him from Stanningley. I remember S Tomkins being at the Pats first but he didn't get a game as that was a very strong side at that age group, so it is possible that he then went over to Crosfields but I'm not sure on that one.

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Not quite a pointless thread but the answer is pretty obvious...why. Well it always has been thus.
The Wigan area (not just the town but the Metroplitain area circa 300k pop) has always been the biggest hotbed for rugby players, I think socio-historic reasons is the main determining factor along with economic & geographic location in that order.
It is extremely deep rooted in the surroundings and culturally has been very important to the area far more than soccer, deffo more so than anywhere else, certainly factors as to why RL hasn't/won't take off in London.
Leeds/West Yorkshire is probably not far shy numerically however with Leeds(& Bradford) having a far greater condensed (& generally bigger ) population that skews it somewhat.

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When Maurice sold me to Leeds something changed, it just not the same, the passion inside me just wasn’t the same as running out at Central park for my hometown club. We need a change of culture here; we don’t want to be just happy with playing ok on Saturday at St Helens. Ill make sure that from now on things will change, that players will be under pressure and will train a lot harder than they have before. Shaun Wane 8/10/09 "WE HAVE ACHIEVED WHAT YOU CAN ONLY EVER DREAM OF" WIGAN RLFC The Mirror 30/10/09 How the Premier League table would look if teams were awarded points for famous fans... 20th: Wigan The Latics don't have any fans, yet alone any famous ones.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29281.jpg



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When Maurice sold me to Leeds something changed, it just not the same, the passion inside me just wasn’t the same as running out at Central park for my hometown club. We need a change of culture here; we don’t want to be just happy with playing ok on Saturday at St Helens. Ill make sure that from now on things will change, that players will be under pressure and will train a lot harder than they have before. Shaun Wane 8/10/09 "WE HAVE ACHIEVED WHAT YOU CAN ONLY EVER DREAM OF" WIGAN RLFC The Mirror 30/10/09 How the Premier League table would look if teams were awarded points for famous fans... 20th: Wigan The Latics don't have any fans, yet alone any famous ones.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29281.jpg



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When Maurice sold me to Leeds something changed, it just not the same, the passion inside me just wasn’t the same as running out at Central park for my hometown club. We need a change of culture here; we don’t want to be just happy with playing ok on Saturday at St Helens. Ill make sure that from now on things will change, that players will be under pressure and will train a lot harder than they have before. Shaun Wane 8/10/09 "WE HAVE ACHIEVED WHAT YOU CAN ONLY EVER DREAM OF" WIGAN RLFC The Mirror 30/10/09 How the Premier League table would look if teams were awarded points for famous fans... 20th: Wigan The Latics don't have any fans, yet alone any famous ones.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29281.jpg



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When Maurice sold me to Leeds something changed, it just not the same, the passion inside me just wasn’t the same as running out at Central park for my hometown club. We need a change of culture here; we don’t want to be just happy with playing ok on Saturday at St Helens. Ill make sure that from now on things will change, that players will be under pressure and will train a lot harder than they have before. Shaun Wane 8/10/09 "WE HAVE ACHIEVED WHAT YOU CAN ONLY EVER DREAM OF" WIGAN RLFC The Mirror 30/10/09 How the Premier League table would look if teams were awarded points for famous fans... 20th: Wigan The Latics don't have any fans, yet alone any famous ones.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29281.jpg



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Quote: Owdpopularsider "Harrison Hanson'"


Signed from Folly Lane (Salford) at 17
Years old played town team rugby for Salford too.

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Oldham chris joint isn't he

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[quote="FlexWheeler":8f22o6ue]The extent of his coaching is ''BASH EM, JUST F*CKING BASH EM. HE'S LOW ON CONFIDENCE, BASH HIM'' He's a limited coach that won't last long term.[/quote:8f22o6ue] .... [quote="rubber duckie":8f22o6ue]That would make Wigan strong favourites then. With Ratchford at FB and Patton with Cronk in the halves, I think we'll do very well without Sam.[/quote:8f22o6ue]:



Quote: RED LEAGUE "Signed from Folly Lane (Salford) at 17
Years old played town team rugby for Salford too.'"


And yet the OP said who played for Wigan youths, Hansen clearly did! Played at least 2 seasons in the academy.

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Quote: rollin thunder "Oldham chris joint isn't he'"


Went Pro with Oldham but is a Wigan lad.

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What are we even talking about?
Wigan born?
Wigan Amateur?
Wigan Youth teams?
Or some mix? So far it just seems like picking and choosing to find a reason people aren't part of the Wigan production line icon_lol.gif. But in terms of just grand finals, nah probably not that great - add in CC, LLS, longer time periods, or just plain number of professionals then all of the above do pretty well.

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19 players on the pitch tonight produced by the Wigan setup. Name another fixture this season that has had the same number of players on the pitch produced by 1 team.

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