is he going to be the new shaun edwards?

by that i mean in ten years time will people just say he was a good kicker but not a special player because the aussies dont credit him? or he was a decent player in a good team?

He's a legendary player in a legendary team. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks about that.

I've watched him week in week out since his debut and he is a Leeds legend, a world class kicker and a world class leader/captain

It will be a very long time before another captain wins more championships

Was Edwards the leader and figure head of Wigan...

Regardless about what any Aussie thinks Sinfield is to Leeds what Gregory,Edwards,Bell and Hanley were to Wigan Combined...he really is [ithat[/i important

I've said on southstander he's up there with Billy Bremner and as a Leeds Utd fan there really is no higher praise.

He'll always be a legend in Leeds and has a clear place in history - frankly who gives a flying f*ck what anyone else thinks

Has Lewis Jones been eclipsed?

Sinfield impresses at all levels: What a player, what an intellect, what a man.

I know he stands no chance in this year of all years for sports personality of the year but for me he's on a par with the more publicised achievers.

I'm not sure simply because Lewis Jones has such legendary status at Leeds. But I'm looking forward to the day when I'm old enough to wear a flat cap, walk with a stick that I don't really need, swear at people and no one minds, and mutter about the Leeds first team at the time as a shower not being good enough to lace Kev Sinfields boots.

I'd still be significantly less of a miserable git than Starbug though

Most consistent player in Superleague. Has good game and very good games

Sums it up for me

A great Pro with a great kicking game but i don't think he is a special player.

He isn't a great individual in the sense of an Ellery Hanley, but as a leader of players he is pretty exceptional.

I've asked on another post, but what exactly would this Leeds side be without him??

I think he lifts them from being a very ordinary group of players into the champions that they are.

I'd mostly agree but ordinary is way OTT (eg Peacock?!!) - he lifts them from a good side to a great side.

Arguably the best British RL player of his generation. A match controller and winner. A guy who virtually never misses a tackle or makes a mistake. A pressure goal kicker par excellence. The guy has just been one physical attribute away from an all time great of the game - just not big enough to be an all great loose forward and just not quick enough to be an all time great stand off. Within his controllables I would say a true great. Last night he was awesome (again). A much, much better all round player than Edwards was.

(Ciare Balding as she put it "got a bit emotional" when she started raving about him).

Well put, there will not be many fans from any club who would not have him in their side. I would have him like a shot in East Hull. Macnamara should build the national side around him & let him sort them out on the field.

Sorry, without wishing to drag out the whole play offs/league leaders debate again, it has to be said that this Leeds side IS NOT a great side, but more a great play off side.

Any team finishing fifth over the course of a 27 match season cannot ever be classed as a great side.

I certainly respect their ability to lift their game for the four week play off campaign and their recent Challenege Cup record shows they are obviously a side that can lift their game for any one-off occasion, but their inconsistancy over a long campaign (something which even their own fans admit frustrates them) means they can't be categorised as a great side in the mould of the Wigan team of the late 80's and 90's or even the Saints team of 2006.

This is my main gripe with the play offs in general - As a competition it is a fine thing and the occasion itself at Old Trafford is great for our sport. However, there can be no doubt that it does reward inconsistancy and gives sides a chance to 'play' a system which, in the long term, is not going to be good for our sport with regards to crowds, which will begin to dwindle if they sense they are being ripped off by a product that is not giving them full value.

Its no surprise that the two finalists on Saturday were the two clubs who appeared to 'play' the system more than most....Wire were constantly rotating their squad throughout the regular season and Leeds are generally accepted to be the side which are most adept at pacing themselves for the play offs.

If, as is now bound to happen, other sides follow the example of Leeds or Wire, then its highly likely that the RL product will become even more weaker than the one we presently have and that can't be a good thing for the sport as a whole.