www.facebook.com/groups/208809639226404/ Facebook group set up in an attempt to see justice for the players that have been left without the pay promised to them. Could you join the group if possible to try to get some publicity for their campaign.

www.facebook.com/groups/208809639226404/ Facebook group set up in an attempt to see justice for the players that have been left without the pay promised to them. Could you join the group if possible to try to get some publicity for their campaign.

What if the club can't afford it?

In any case, if a club is removed from Super League, aren't players' contracts null and void? That would mean that anyone contracted to play for Crusaders THIS season aren't owed anything.

Furthermore, didn't the RFL say that any players who went to other Super League clubs won't have their salaries counted on the cap? It's not Crusaders' fault if those players couldn't find other clubs, is it?

Its' not the current Crusaders club that owes them any money and their contract was with the former club NOT the RFL. They need to go after Moss, Roberts and Samuels for what they are owed and stop trying to get the rest of us to foot the bill for their mistakes after all if the RFL was stupid enough to pay them any money then it is our clubs it would come from. We all want justice for them but from the right people.

What are you talking about? Crusaders no longer exist, so how could any players be contracted to them? I don't think any players were promised exclusions from the salary cap? This thread isn't anything to do with the withdrawal of Crusaders from Super Leauge, this is regarding the money owed to a number of players who played for the club when they were based in South Wales and have still not been paid what they were promised.

I dont know the ins and outs of this but if the old club has ceased to exist who exactly is responsible for paying them now ?

It depends on the status of their former employer.
If the company went into administration, wages owed to employees makes them preferential creditors.
But if the company was liquidated and all "assets" sold etc, then it depends how much cash was raised
and if there wasn't sufficient funds, then it would fall on the government to pay redundancy etc, but I think this also depends on certain other criteria.
The waters may be further muddied if they were here illegally and I have absolutely no knowledge of this aspect.

I agree with Cru, (Hi mate been a while) However this is the sort of thing that should be written in Stone by the RFL. There should be no question as to who they claim money from it should all be clear that in the event a sports club goes under (sadly very common in the modern age) the players know who to turn too. Perhaps clubs should lodge a deposit with the league that could cover players wages in even of a default when they are granted their license. Also Isn't this the sort of thing the players union is for?

Why do you consider RL players to be any different to other workers? , the company they were working for went bust, end of

They went bust! It happens. Move on.

if they were working legally they get standard redundancy, f the company couldn't afford it they get the standard redundancy from the insolvency service - if they were working illegally they deserve nothing and any fines and deportation/ban on entering the UK coming to them

This is the crux really, even if the players can prove the their side of the argument and show the now defunct club aided them in illegally entering the country then how really are they going to get their money back. Best bet is to get the deportation lifted, but really, it's down to the individual to check immigration documents, not the company, even if the company raised them.

I can't see how the RFL are implicated in this, theirs is to register the player and probably to advise in a tertiary role.

The other part too all this is how are these players going to attend court if thats were it ends up, if they are not allowed to enter the country they aren't going to be able to take the stand.

THe RFL could be implicated if they were aware of how the Crusaders were signing their overseas players and in the article that kicked this off, they were said to be aware of the situation ?

The RFL are implicated as they advised the club and players to use ileagal visa's, that is if you believe the players, there is no proof, just what they say

The RFL will just keep quiet and hope it all gets forgotten , if they comment on it, they would end up having to answer questions on it, something they will want to avoid at all costs