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The following formula posted on the Leeds website to find out the most successful player in SL, do people agree with how it is weighted.
GF = 10pts
CC = 8pts
Golden Boot = 7pts
MoS = 6pts
WCC = 5pts
LL = 5pts
Lance Todd = 4pts
Harry Sunderland = 4pts
Dream Team = 2pts
International caps = 1 pt per appearance
The top 5 players based on this are (if my stats are correct):
Jamie Peacock 175 pts with 7GF, 2CC, 3WCC, 7DT, 4LL, 1MOS, 34IC
Kieron Cunningham 171 pts with 4GF, 7CC, 2WCC, 6DT, 6LL, 23IC
Paul Wellens 163 pts with 4GF, 5CC, 5LL, 2WCC, 1MOS, 3LT, 3DT, 1HS, 22IC
Leon Pryce 158pys with 4GF, 6CC, 3WCC, 6LL, 3WCC, 1HS, 1LT, 1DT, 23IC
Sean Long 156 pts with 4GF, 5CC, 5LL, 2WCC, 2DT, 1MOS, 3LT, 21IC
Obviously the most successful player is not necessarily the best so who do people think is the best player to play in Super League based only on SL appearances (minimum of 2 years in SL to qualify)? Personally I think the best player ever to play in SL is Jamie Peacock due to his continued success throughout his career, his leadership and imo his will to win is greater than any other player. He just edges KC because I think the best ever player in SL has to have won the MoS at least once which KC maybe unjustly hasnt done. There is also an arguments for Andy Farrell as he has won the Golden Boot which no other SL has and Paul Sculthorpe the only player to win MoS as a back and a forward!!
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The best player to ever play in SL is Andrew Johns.
A case for the best SL player could be made for Farrell, Scully, Cunningham, Long, Senior and Peacock.
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so you get more points for playing in a GF winning team than you do for winning MOS ?
Stupid formula.
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| Quote: Pemps "The best player to ever play in SL is Andrew Johns.
A case for the best SL player could be made for Farrell, Scully, Cunningham, Long, Senior and Peacock.'"
Pemps has just proved the formula to be completely wrong. |
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MoM in a grand final is worth double being named the best player in the world?
What?
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did Ryan Bailey make this formula up?
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Iestyn Harris. 98- 99- 2000. before union. should have been up there with the all time greats if he had stayed in league.
Kevin Sinfield. people won't appreciate him out side Leeds until well after he has retired.
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| Quote: jarvis12345 "The following formula posted on the Leeds website to find out the most successful player in SL, do people agree with how it is weighted.
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just reading it on the leeds board shows how much it was fabricated to be baised towards leeds players. in my opinion even if it was very brief andrew johns and trent barrett are far better talent wise than any leeds halfback. if anything it just shows how poor superleague has been that 4 teams have dominated it. if some one asks whos going to win nrl its almost impossible to perdict.
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Jamie Lyon
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| Quote: dubairl "
just reading it on the leeds board shows how much it was fabricated to be baised towards leeds players..'"
Wow  - And yet, of the top 4, 3 were St Helen's.
I think if we'd have wanted to 'fabricate' it we'd simply double the points for GF wins. That would obviously excel most of our players ahead of Saints! |
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| Quote: LeedsDave "Wow ![]()
more to the point on your board leeds fans where trying to find away to say ryan bailey has been the best prop in superleague so stop trying to be snide and grow up. If anything it just shows that your team hasn't had the best individual players in superleague more to the fact you have done well against st helens.
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Andrew Johns by far. Followed by Jamie Lyon.
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "did Ryan Bailey make this formula up?'"
How dare you mock TGPFISL when he owns 5 GF winners rings? The fact that his career performances haven't warranted a full international appearance since being busted for taking ephedrine in 2004 remains coincidental at best, and at worst serves as a benchmark to others lacking in ambition and improvement. |
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Andrew Johns, Paul Sculthorpe, Jamie Lyon, Kieron Cunningham & Alan Langer are my top 5 (I think), but with Lyon, johns and langer only playing for short periods of time I'd go scully.
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| Quote: WakeyManDan8 "Andrew Johns by far. Followed by Jamie Lyon.'"
Jamie Lyon is not the best centre to have played SL for St Helens.
Regarding the points, there's no award for MoM in the WCC?
(Whilst I don't think he was the best SL player) Chris Joynt had a run when he won the Harry Sunderland, then the next game he was MoM against Brisbane in a WCC victory and then got MoM when we beat Wigan in the CC, which was our next proper game. What a run of form that was. |
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