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| Poor quality kickers just use this as a get out of jail tactic. Don't like yawnion but bout time we followed them and brought play back to where the kick was made.
Wigan mastered this [especially Leulai] but more teams seem to be following suit.
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| I agree but this certainly isn't purely a Wigan tactic.
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| Every team does it.
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| Simple solution, bring in a rule like icing in ice hockey.
Kick the ball dead from your own half, the tap restart is on the 40 or halfway instead of the 20.
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| Or instead of bringin play back, make it a penalty on the 20 instead of a tap.
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| I've got no problem with it. Seems as if some people won't be happy until it's 72-64 each match
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| Quote: richie166 "I've got no problem with it. Seems as if some people won't be happy until it's 72-64 each match'"
It's a totally negative tactic that devalues the battle for field position. Any donkey can hammer a ball dead and it can often make up for the team not having much of a pack.
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| Within the the 20 restart on 20, everywhere else restarts at the point of the kick. Simple
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| Difference is that the union in goal areas are much bigger. Most SL grounds are only 5 deep and the majority of kicks only just run dead.
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| Quote: Big Ask "Within the the 20 restart on 20, everywhere else restarts at the point of the kick. Simple'"
Spot on.
Kick returns are one of the more exciting plays we have in the game, I don't like the idea of hammering the ball dead with absolutely no chance of returning it to in order to negate players with the abilities of Sam Tomkins or Billy Slater.
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| I think something has to be done. Its an easy get out for sides and a restart at the 40 would change the attitude towards using such tactics.
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| Quote: MadDogg "I agree but this certainly isn't purely a Wigan tactic.'"
Don't you know that Wigan invented:
The High Tackle
Wrestling in the ruck
3 man tackles
Off-side at the PTB
Markers not being square
Forward passes
AND are also the cause of Global Warming, World Famine & Andy Murray not winning Wimbledon?
If one followed RLFans as gospel Wigan would have a lot to account for in the world.
Also, i'd just like to point out, the reason Tommy's kicks go out dead is because he can be a poor kicker of the ball.
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| I agree with the out-and-out kicks for dead. But what would you do with the sort of kick often made by the likes of Danny Brough or Lee Briers where they attempt to have the ball stop just short of or in the try box only for it to dribble the last few inches and end up over the line? This type of kick, with the aim to build pressure, is entirely meritorious and when they come off can lead to exciting rugby. Players may not risk these if the penalty for failure were loss of territory, then they'd all go back to playing it safe and kicking for touch - a standard Union tactic.
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| Some full backs are happy to just let the ball run dead even if they can make a play at it, what would happen then?
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| Leeds and especially Kevin Sinfield have done this for years. I didn't like it then and don't like it now. Think a 40 metre restart would be too harsh. Ball back to where kicked would seem a fair compromise.
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