| FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > the return of scrummaging and scrum penalties |
 |
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 12958 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2007 | 18 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2011 | Jul 2011 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1cc0q.html
under the new regime of harrigan they have been enforcing a lot of things including off side at the kick offs, correct PTBs, drop outs not passing the try line and the way scrums are set
today a penalty was awarded for feet across the tunnel, something ive not seen for at least 10 years
scrums have to be bound properly as well
im not sure we are going down the right path with this ....
edit : the new PTBs are much better, rather than just rolling it between the legs real contact with the foot must be made, it looks more like proper footy
just when they start penalzing scrum infriengements, where do they stop?
|
|
www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1cc0q.html
under the new regime of harrigan they have been enforcing a lot of things including off side at the kick offs, correct PTBs, drop outs not passing the try line and the way scrums are set
today a penalty was awarded for feet across the tunnel, something ive not seen for at least 10 years
scrums have to be bound properly as well
im not sure we are going down the right path with this ....
edit : the new PTBs are much better, rather than just rolling it between the legs real contact with the foot must be made, it looks more like proper footy
just when they start penalzing scrum infriengements, where do they stop?
| |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 2862 |  |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2009 | 15 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Dec 2017 | Dec 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: dally messenger "www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/new-rule-taking-game-back-to-70s-says-moaning-stone-20110327-1cc0q.html
under the new regime of harrigan they have been enforcing a lot of things including off side at the kick offs, correct PTBs, drop outs not passing the try line and the way scrums are set
today a penalty was awarded for feet across the tunnel, something ive not seen for at least 10 years
scrums have to be bound properly as well
im not sure we are going down the right path with this ....
edit
AT last back to the good old days when a hooker was a hooker yippee 
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 9721 |  |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2020 | Apr 2020 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| WOT!!!
RL being played to the RULES!!!!
That'll screw a load of players, coaches and more importantly the fans up!!!
They just will not have a clue of what is going on  |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 37704 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2018 | Aug 2018 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: dally messenger "
just when they start penalzing scrum infriengements, where do they stop?'"
When players stop taking the pi[is[/is |
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 45 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2011 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2011 | Nov 2011 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Scrum penalties are usually differential anyway. So only 2 choices as oppose to the usual 3.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Owner | 5558 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2004 | 21 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Oct 2022 | Oct 2022 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Kenny Powers "Scrum penalties are usually differential anyway. So only 2 choices as oppose to the usual 3.'"
The Aussies play to a different rule book, don't they? |
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 31082 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2024 | Sep 2019 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Apart from scrums, all the others get penalised in the UK anyway.
Worst scrum offence I saw was Bobby Goulding in a cup game v Saints. He didnt even put the ball in, just dummied it and ran round the back of the scrum. Ref said play on.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 8 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2011 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2011 | Sep 2011 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I don't play rugby but have supported Wire all my life and what i can't understand is ...why have a scrum? In Union the scrum is contested but in League the ball is just fed into the back row with no contest from the opposing pack pack. Surely something else could be done instead of this.
Just my opinions by the way.  |
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 1869 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jul 2010 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| May 2018 | Apr 2018 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Here's an idea - competitve scrums? It's messy - Ref them properly!
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 22777 |  |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2006 | 19 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jun 2020 | Feb 2018 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Conorgiantsfan "Here's an idea - competitve scrums? It's messy - Ref them properly!'"
yay, waste time setting and resetting scrums so we can have a competition for a ball we cant see. What a great spectacle that would be.
If it wasnt a union invention, we would have the lineout replacing the scrum already. It is a spectacle, and it is a competitive way of restarting the game, doesnt take long to set up and allows for vast variation. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 286 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2011 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2011 | Aug 2011 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
and the funniest thing was when they got a penalty... the players didnt know that it was a differential penalty, or what that meant!!!
Jamie Soward had to have it explained by the ref!
shows how long since the scrums were penalised... and IMO returning to the penalty offered nothing to the game but an excuse for the ref to blow the whistle!!
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 6206 |  |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Dec 2013 | Dec 2013 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: SmokeyTA "yay, waste time setting and resetting scrums so we can have a competition for a ball we cant see. What a great spectacle that would be....'"
Your quite right - why not make it honest. Lets mark four circles - one in each quarter of the field, and instead of a messy scrum get the 12 forwards to stand within the circle - maybe holding hands? - while the backs line up for a tap restart. 
Nothing up with a contested rugby league scrum, if the players and officials know what they are doing. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Board Member | 18789 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Aug 2002 | 22 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2023 | Mar 2018 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Great news.
Ffffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeding !!!!!
"Bloody 'ell - did you see that? - he threw it in at the loose forwards feet. Come on ref ....... Feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeding !!!"
 |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 6841 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: SmokeyTA "If it wasnt a union invention, we would have the lineout replacing the scrum already. It is a spectacle, and it is a competitive way of restarting the game, doesnt take long to set up and allows for vast variation.'" It's not a "union invention" it is a legacy from our shared history pre 1895 and we ditched it in 1897 (and, IMO, haven't missed it). |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 22777 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2006 | 19 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jun 2020 | Feb 2018 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: MjM "It's not a "union invention" it is a legacy from our shared history pre 1895 and we ditched it in 1897 (and, IMO, haven't missed it).'"
Well, maybe rephrasing as "would be looked upon as a union invention" would be better.
Semantics aside, it would work better than the scrum does currently and would be a competitive and varied way of restarting the game. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
