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It's an honest attempt by the RFL to get some data about fans outside SL.

No doubt some of the morons on here will fill it out with stupidity. However, I'd suggest that people fill it in as honestly as you can as it's a chance for fans to get their voices heard

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Quote: Roofaldo "It's an honest attempt by the RFL to get some data about fans outside SL.

No doubt some of the morons on here will fill it out with stupidity. However, I'd suggest that people fill it in as honestly as you can as it's a chance for fans to get their voices heard'"


One person's stupidity may be anothers realism. I'd love to see the results of this, especially a comparison from SL fans and those of the Championship and also Championship one.

The more we view the lower league as a feeder competition, which a lot are starting to! The more fans we will lose from OUR game simple as that, the RFL need to address this sharply otherwise we will be in big trouble in a few years time.

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Quote: J20 "the RFL need to address this sharply otherwise we will be in big trouble in a few years time.'"


The RFL need to address it?

How do you suggest the RFL address the fact that most clubs outside SL can't motivate more than a few hundred fans to get off their backsides to come watch the product they're offering?

Let me guess, automatic P & R to Super League? I can see how that would put a couple of thousand on the gates at places like Workington and Dewsbury. No, really.

When are fans of non-SL clubs going to stop heaping the blame for their own failures at the door of Red Hall?

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Quote: Andy Gilder "The RFL need to address it?

How do you suggest the RFL address the fact that most clubs outside SL can't motivate more than a few hundred fans to get off their backsides to come watch the product they're offering?

Let me guess, automatic P & R to Super League? I can see how that would put a couple of thousand on the gates at places like Workington and Dewsbury. No, really.

When are fans of non-SL clubs going to stop heaping the blame for their own failures at the door of Red Hall?'"

It won't instantly boost the attendances, of course not, but I do think it's a reason why more and more towns such as those mentioned see people wandering about in Super League shirts rather than that of their local club. Still, is that much of a problem to the RFL or the all-powerful Super League clubs?

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Quote: Andy Gilder "The RFL need to address it?

How do you suggest the RFL address the fact that most clubs outside SL can't motivate more than a few hundred fans to get off their backsides to come watch the product they're offering?

Let me guess, automatic P & R to Super League? I can see how that would put a couple of thousand on the gates at places like Workington and Dewsbury. No, really.

When are fans of non-SL clubs going to stop heaping the blame for their own failures at the door of Red Hall?'"


You are quite correct it wouldn't

The question however is what do you want the Championships to be made up of

20 clubs like Workington and Dewsbury [ no disrespect to those clubs , just using what was highlighted ] or 20 clubs like Widnes ?

What the RFL do does however have a bearing on that , and at the moment we are heading for the former , not the latter

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Quote: Andy Gilder "The RFL need to address it?

How do you suggest the RFL address the fact that most clubs outside SL can't motivate more than a few hundred fans to get off their backsides to come watch the product they're offering?

Let me guess, automatic P & R to Super League? I can see how that would put a couple of thousand on the gates at places like Workington and Dewsbury. No, really.

When are fans of non-SL clubs going to stop heaping the blame for their own failures at the door of Red Hall?'"


They seem happy enough to help SL clubs advertise with things on press releases about up coming games etc yet leave clubs outside to their own devices, not even a 5min slot on Boots N All anymore etc. If the RFL want these clubs to exist they need to do a bit more to promote our game outside SL simple as that.

A lot in SL have the 'i'm alright jack' attitude and as an example are happy to get SKY money advances on wages... What does a champ club do if a sponsor goes busy or major backer goes ill? There us nothing for them to fall back on!

RL is OUR game not just SL's game!

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I don't know how it could be done, but i'd love the championship and champ 1's TV rights to be sold deliberately to a terrestrial TV company. Think it would do the smaller clubs a world of good in terms of exposure and sponsorship money.

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A proper fixture structure instead of the half-assed attempt made in January every year - gaps all over the place and no home fixtures for 4 weeks. Sort this out at least.

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That would be a start.

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Quote: J20 "They seem happy enough to help SL clubs advertise with things on press releases about up coming games etc yet leave clubs outside to their own devices, not even a 5min slot on Boots N All anymore etc. If the RFL want these clubs to exist they need to do a bit more to promote our game outside SL simple as that.'"


Why the RFL though - with the greatest of respect if the RFL release a press release about a representative game for example and tack on the end that Featherstone are playing Halifax next Sunday, how much additional interest is that going to generate?

I would suggest that the overwhelming majority of people interested in going to see Featherstone play Halifax will already be aware of the game, and if people in Featherstone or Halifax aren't aware of it then maybe those two clubs need to question what they are doing to promote their games locally?

As for scheduling of Boots N All, take that one up with Sky. Maybe as a commercial sports channel they're pitching their product at where they think the major audience lies.

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This might test the depth of belief some hold in "automatic" P&RA proposed new framework for the community game was recently announced by the RFL recommending a move to a March and October season.

Are you in support of the Championships forming part of a fully integrated pyramid structure for Rugby League?*

Should Championship One move towards connecting to the National Premier divisions ensuring clubs with suitable standards can pass between divisions?[/i

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Why the RFL though - with the greatest of respect if the RFL release a press release about a representative game for example and tack on the end that Featherstone are playing Halifax next Sunday, how much additional interest is that going to generate?'"

In that case, the same question can be asked of the RFL sending out e-mails on behalf of clubs to promote upcoming games - I regularly get emails from the RFL promoting Wigan Warriors games because of being on the RFL database with a WN postcode.

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Close it down. No need for a pretend professional league. Just have each Super League team adopt 2 or 3 of these mickey mouse outfits each and have them run their academies and reserves through them. Standards would improve and the fact they were no longer professional would drive the age of the players down to create a proper ladder system like they have in the NRL.

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