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Bit OTT imo, no wonder Cas are peeved.
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They've already signalled their intention to appeal.
While I don't condone the chanting, you do wonder where the RFL have been for the last 30 years when there have been plenty of "Player X takes it up the..." chants and songs about players being paedophiles?
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I think you will find most Cas fans agree that the chanting was wrong and it shouldn't have gone by without any action being taken.
That being said, £40k seems like a hell of a lot of money for the actions of a very small minority of fans who took part in this chanting. I would also suggest that abusive chanting goes on at most grounds in Rugby League, whether against opposition fans or players alike. I have heard the likes of Sean Long, Barrie McDermott, Keith Senior, Iestyn Harris and so on getting abused for various reasons by various crowds Live on Sky Sports and why are those incidents any different?
What could our club have done to prevent this chanting? Very little and I would suggest that the only way to get this sort of behaviour off of the terraces at Cas or elsewhere is to educate the fans that foul and abusive language will not be tolerated, something which Cas have been doing a great deal of this season (and even more so since this incident occurred).
Unfortunately I don't see the fine being overturned and I think it's another notch against us for the franchise applications.
One thing I would point out is this quote from Gareth Thomas earlier this year
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| Quote: Legionited "I think you will find most Cas fans agree that the chanting was wrong and it shouldn't have gone by without any action being taken …
The chanting wasn't malicious or threatening and I'm sure the people involved thought nothing of it at the time other than to perhaps distract him'"
Make your mind up (hint, you were right the first time, not the second) |
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I hope Hull KR get the same fine considering from many reports their chanting was even worse.
Richard Wright has been sent an email with pictures/names and proof of who did the chanting at Cas, lets see what he does about it.
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| Quote: saints35 bulls0 "...for failing to take action to stop homophobic chanting aimed at Gareth Thomas.
So the club:
- Now have a CD that they play every time they hear any obscene chanting
- Have installed more CCTV around the ground
- Have stewards/police near every exit and more in general around the ground.
Gareth Thomas has fined this club himself, Shaun Long and numerous other players have had a bit of banter towards them for being fat or whatever and taken it on the chin and haven't gone running to the press.
The same in football applies, the RFL are so biased towards the big clubs it is just outrageous.
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| Quote: tb "Make your mind up (hint, you were right the first time, not the second)'"
I don't think it was malicious, but that doesn't mean chanting about it's acceptable either so I think I'm entirely justified in expressing my thoughts as I have, thank you.
It's not the best example, but Sean Long is regularly abused and called "Gypo" and suchlike. I don't think that's particularly fair either, but it's not malicious. |
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| Quote: Gaslight "I hope Hull KR get the same fine considering from many reports their chanting was even worse.
Richard Wright has been sent an email with pictures/names and proof of who did the chanting at Cas, lets see what he does about it.'"
Well the reports would be wrong then. I was smack in the middle of the East Stand for the Crusaders game last month and there was not 1 single chant directed towards Mr Thomas. |
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| That seems incredibly harsh to me. A couple of grand maybe, but £40,000! 
Jeeze! |
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| Quote: Gaslight "I hope Hull KR get the same fine considering from many reports their chanting was even worse.'"
Let's not turn this into a "they did this, they did that" because that's not the point. It's almost definitely occurred at other grounds but unfortunately for Cas, we're the club who have been identified and furthermore punished. |
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| Quote: Legionited "Let's not turn this into a "they did this, they did that" because that's not the point. It's almost definitely occurred at other grounds but unfortunately for Cas, we're the club who have been identified and furthermore punished.'" Probably because you were the first? Wasn't it his 1st away game? |
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| Quote: Legionited "Let's not turn this into a "they did this, they did that" because that's not the point. It's almost definitely occurred at other grounds but unfortunately for Cas, we're the club who have been identified and furthermore punished.'"
Whilst Thomas has stated that he wanted to let the matter drop, he's the one who mentions it and whines about it in the media at every opportunity. I fear that's also had an impact on this punishment which I agree with the majority, is ridiculous. |
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exactly how can a club stop fans singing? Short of a water cannon I don't really see what more they can do except appeal over the pr system.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Probably because you were the first? Wasn't it his 1st away game?'"
No idea, quite possibly so.
Quote: east hull FC fan "Whilst Thomas has stated that he wanted to let the matter drop, he's the one who mentions it and whines about it in the media at every opportunity. I fear that's also had an impact on this punishment which I agree with the majority, is ridiculous.'"
I can understand why some would think he has been moaning about it to the media, but I think it's likely that its more the media are the ones asking him the questions and he's simply answering them. |
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