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| If kr want a coach who actually knows the rules give me a shout...... Clueless. Galea tackled brown without the ball but just got away with it. Close call
but I would have given the try
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| Ok so it's a dangerous tackle but only not if you're in the act of scoring. So if some breaks their neck but was trying to score we'll just accept it..... Bizarre
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| Actually you're not allowed to tackle the player in the air. Are you sure you want to be a coach?
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| 1 terrible call and 1 contentious call from the VR in 2 minutes there.
Hodgson goes up and catches the ball cleanly and is travelling towards and over the tryline. Fox tackles him from the side, IN THE AIR, and pushes him onto the flag and over the touchline. Without Fox's illegal interference there is NO doubt Hodgson would have scored - has to be a penalty try.
The Brown incident is more borderline for me. It seems clear Galea is looking at and for the ball and indeed goes for it with his left hand - BUT, his right arm also goes round Brown, who is effectively tackled and brought down without the ball.
Also, I don't think Brown's hands touched the ball. Galea palmed it with his left hand, it hit Brown's upper thighs and bounced forward, eventually being grounded by an onside player.
Either way, it seems clear he would have probably caught and grounded it without Galea's interference.
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| Quote: Barnacle Bill "Actually you're not allowed to tackle the player in the air. Are you sure you want to be a coach?'"
Psssttt, I think Mr Morgan said that you can takcle the player in the air.
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| Both penalty trys for me, especially the first one, if it wasn't so far towards the end of the game both would have been yellow cards too.
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| Quote: Gaslight "Both penalty trys for me, especially the first one, if it wasn't so far towards the end of the game both would have been yellow cards too.'"
Don't penalty tries have to offences committed in the act of scoring, of which, neither were?
Hull KR got away with Cockayne (?) pulling back Brown when he was chasing the ball near to the tryline. Eddie thought that "Brown [had] been pushed". Should have been a penalty either way.
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| Quote: Fully "Don't penalty tries have to offences committed in the act of scoring, of which, neither were?'"
There's a case for Brown being in the act of scoring, but isn't it denying a clear try scoring opportunity like a tackle off the ball when the player would have reached the ball?
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| Quote: Gaslight "There's a case for Brown being in the act of scoring, but isn't it denying a clear try scoring opportunity like a tackle off the ball when the player would have reached the ball?'"
Just read the rules. The Hodgson one wasn't guaranteed to score, therefore, penalty. There's certainly a case for the offence on Brown to be given as one but very sketchy in my opinion.
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| Galea was going for the ball though and so long as both players are going in the same direction I dont see a problem with it. Brown knocked on and there is no 100% certain that given Galea not diving that Brown would have scored anyway.
Again Hodgson, no way a penalty try. I have seen much more obvious ones not given so for me its a no on this one. Again its not 100% certain he would have scored. At the speed he was going, if Fox had waited until Hodgson had hit the ground then there is a slim possibility he may have been able to push him out or dislodge the ball? Small chance i know but a penalty try has to be 100% certain he would have scored - neither of these were for mine (first one was right call and not even a penalty anyway)
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| Quote: El Capitano "Galea was going for the ball though and so long as both players are going in the same direction I dont see a problem with it. Brown knocked on and there is no 100% certain that given Galea not diving that Brown would have scored anyway.
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Attempt or not, the fact he went through the man to even gain that opportunity of getting the ball is wrong. Had he tried to come round Brown and swipe at it, fair enough, I could see your point. It's just one of those decisions though and if it had been any of our own sides we'd be saying it's correct decision so no qualms really.
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| Quote: Fully "Just read the rules. The Hodgson one wasn't guaranteed to score, therefore, penalty. There's certainly a case for the offence on Brown to be given as one but very sketchy in my opinion.'"
How did you work that out?
Hodgson caught the ball cleanly and had it in his possession. He was moving towards and would have landed over the tryline. Without Fox's interference, what would have stopped him grounding it? Nothing. No-one. If that's not someone in the act of scoring I don't know what is.
Fox tackled him illegally in the air and pushed him into the flag and out of play.
World Cup Final. Hohaia was not in the act of scoring - he wasn't even in possession of the ball but just chasing it down and was taken out on the goal line, a distance from the ball. Hodgson, on the other hand, had the ball in his hands and was travelling over the goal line to score until taken out illegally.
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| Quote: Cronus "How did you work that out?
Hodgson caught the ball cleanly and had it in his possession. He was moving towards and would have landed over the tryline. Without Fox's interference, what would have stopped him grounding it? Nothing. No-one. If that's not someone in the act of scoring I don't know what is.'"
You could argue that Fox could have gave Hodgson space and either secured the ball from being grounded or could have been pushed into touch as soon as his feet touched the ground.
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| Quote: Matty_HullFC "Psssttt, I think Mr Morgan said that you can takcle the player in the air.'"
Do you really think that?
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| Quote: Fully "You could argue that Fox could have gave Hodgson space and either secured the ball from being grounded or could have been pushed into touch as soon as his feet touched the ground.'"
You could argue Hohaia might have tripped. That's not the point. Remove Fox from the equation and Hodgson scores. Simple as that.
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