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| Ok so i was in work looking at the SL, Champ and Champ1 tables earlier and looking at possible expansion in the future, and by future i mean the long term because right now alot more question's have to be asked about the state of the RFL and certain clubs and the positions they are in, however i began to think about having...
Super League: 14 Teams
Championship: 14 Teams
Championship One: 14 Teams
Bring back promotion and relegation, Super League one down, Championship one up, two down. And shorten the py offs in each league, I believe a top 8 in a 14 team league, rewards being an average team. Try 4/5/6.
Teams to bring in?
Im not sure who in full, but a few preferences id like to see is a Scottish side and an Irish side into Championship One, in similar vein to the Scorpions with a majority local squad. This will help devlelop grassroots interest and activity in boith nations and offer a different career path to rugby players.
I also feel the need for an Aude XIII from Lezignan, Limoux clubs of France, and maintain the latter as feeder sides in the French league, again this will help to imrpove teh French game and add some more spice to the lower leagues, also if Toulouse were to gain SL entry it will fill the stepping stone for the french player pathway.
Would you make changes? Would you include new clubs? Bring back promotion and relegation? ideas on the play-offs?
What do you all think
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| Objective of SL - expand the game and improve the international spectacle
Results of SL - killing off founder clubs, filling teams with average imports/passport dodgies and killing the international game.
A bright future was available after the centenary world cup, we simply blew it.
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| The super league seasons at the moment are a farce. I just can’t find myself jumping in joy watching my world class team put in a mediocre performances against mediocre teams nearly every week and still coming out on top.
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| If we're talking about expanding the game then there are a few things that need to be done.
1) massive injections of cash at grassroots/school level to improve the quality and number of young players coming into the game as well as providing a strong "post-game" career path
2) A review and restructure of the salary cap so that it rewards clubs that nurture, produce and, above all, consistently play home grown talent.
3) A change to the overseas players rule in terms of INCREASING the number of overseas players allowed in the league. TBH, I know the rules are there to try and encourage teams to bring on more home grown players but really what it does is force clubs to go for less talented and less skilful players because they're unable to take a better overseas player, which dilutes and weakens the game and instead of meaning that the better home grown players such as Burgess and the like are playing in a weaker and less able league than they would have been a few years ago.
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| Quote: Roofaldo "1) massive injections of cash at grassroots/school level to improve the quality and number of young players coming into the game as well as providing a strong "post-game" career path'"
What we need is talent spotters who have no alliance to any club in super league. This way we can make sure that talent that hasn't been picked up by a super league club gets matured and will hopefully break into super league eventually.
Its not the money that's needed. Its the guidance
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| we need clubs under SL to accept their place as feeder teams for the elite level of the game and form partnerships with SL clubs to develop jnr talent ready for the SL club like they do in the NSW cup and Q'land cup.
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| Quote: ap1717 "Ok so i was in work looking at the SL, Champ and Champ1 tables earlier and looking at possible expansion in the future, and by future i mean the long term because right now alot more question's have to be asked about the state of the RFL and certain clubs and the positions they are in, however i began to think about having...
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If (semi) automatic promotion and relegation would work between a professional and a semiprofessional league (which, imo, it doesn't) why not go the whole hog and introduce promotion and relegation between the semi-professional and amateur leagues - so that crap heartland semi-pro clubs who finish bottom of championship 1 can be consigned to the amateur game where they clearly belong and top amateur clubs can be promoted to the semi-pro ranks, whether they want to or not?
Quote: ap1717 "we need clubs under SL to accept their place as feeder teams for the elite level of the game and form partnerships with SL clubs to develop jnr talent ready for the SL club like they do in the NSW cup and Q'land cup.'"
No we don't. This is not Australia.
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| Quote: JB Down Under "we need clubs under SL to accept their place as feeder teams for the elite level of the game and form partnerships with SL clubs to develop jnr talent ready for the SL club like they do in the NSW cup and Q'land cup.'"
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| The only way to improve the game is BAN overseas players.
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| Quote: RED FLAG RISING "The only way to improve the game is BAN overseas players.'"
Are you joking?
The cap on SL games each player can compete seems to be the logical solution.
I'm also leaning towards the conference idea, if we have to keep the playoffs to reduce fixtures.
As for the feeder club proposal, they are moving closer and closer to this system, and I'm personally leaning for it at the moment.
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| Quote: tb "
No we don't. This is not Australia.'"
that much is obvious!
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| My idea would be....keep P&R as it is with the tri-yearly franchises. But you can only get relegated from SL if you have finished bottom of the league. As the original post said 3 divisions of 14. There should be just as strict criteria for promo to the Championship from Ch1 but do this yearly.
Bin Murrayfield magic for a big season opener-start with a bang.
Keep NRC at Blackpool-that works well.
End of season internationals to consolidate and progress, European Nations, Pacific Cup, other Nations playing tests (however minor they are)
Much stricter regulation on Nationalities of players. Choose a nation and stick to it. Once you have represented this nation, you wear that nations badge under your name on your club shirt.
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| Quote: RED FLAG RISING "The only way to improve the game is to BAN Wakefield and Salford players.'"
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| Quote: Scorpions for SL "
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| Quote: Bovrick "Are you joking?
The cap on SL games each player can compete seems to be the logical solution.
I'm also leaning towards the conference idea, if we have to keep the playoffs to reduce fixtures.
As for the feeder club proposal, they are moving closer and closer to this system, and I'm personally leaning for it at the moment.'"
Why not ban overseas players.
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