Looking at the teams on sunday it appears that around 23 of the 34 players were non UK federation trained + Thomas has switched from RU.

So with all the licencing and quota rules and general encouragement of player development we have a SL game with less than 1/3 of players developed in Uk RL.

[Credit to Quins who have been pilloried in the past but looked to have only 2 non fed trained in their 17 versus Saints.]

Just out of curiosity, is that reflected in the broader game? Or are they just bringing the average down? And how does it compare to previous seasons averages?

How long have crusaders been in business? Give them a chance.

Christ, that was almost positive!

Around 5 years with South Wales as a catchment area. They have known they will be in SL since spring 2008. They are based around 30 miles from Widnes but find it more convenient to fly in players from Oz than to recruit in the UK. they had around 13/17 non fed trained. A joke.

Yet you are giving credit to quins? How long have they been going?

I am giving credit to quins having 2/17 on Saturday.

We differ. I think 23/24 NF trained in a SL game is a complete farce. You do not.

I didnt say that. Im looking at the bigger picture, you arent. Wakefield have no excuses. Crusaders are relatively new. Yes, you can point to the catchment area but what would be the point of playing 17 welshman who are of amateur level or 17 random englishmen who are no good. The fact is, in the short term, you get more bang for your buck from aussies who have played in the NRL

Hang on a minute they knew from January that they were playing in Wrexham so how many players of SL standard do you think are available in January?

Given that you feel you have all the answers tell me how many federation trained players are available in South Wales or North Wales for that matter or how many federation trained wanted to up sticks and play in South Wales last year? (I'll give you a starter with Matty Smith and Ste Tyrer)

Credit to Quins who've been in Super League for how long?

We don't have enough UK players who are good enough. Crusaders need a team that will get the results NOW to pull the punters in & so far full credit to them they are doing it. Michael Witt has been a joy to watch this season.

Hey we will still win the Four Nations though!

SL clubs have seen to that havn't they.

Made me laugh when the bloke a few rows away was shouting and screaming about the 'Welsh' having too many Aussies! And they say another one will replace Tronc...are there any decent props in the Championship who'd deserve a go?

Chris Hill is the best prop in the CH, deserves a shot at SL sometime soon again after making his Leigh debut in 2005 in SL. Luckily for Leigh he signed another contract not long back.

I feel that, do I? Show me where I said such a thing or are you resorting to making up what other posters write?

The Crusaders have been in the market since Spring 2008. How long do they need to contact GB developed players?