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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Lots of complaining about Lee Smith not being up to the task.

How could your club have helped?

At Leeds our first choice were Keith Senior and Lee Smith. Their backups who also saw time were Kallum Watkins and Ashley Gibson. That's 4 players who qualify for England leaving aside opinions on whether they're good enough.

You see, if you're not English (or qualified to play for England) then whether you're good enough is a moot point.

So, for all those of you sticking the boot in, lets' see. Who were your Centres this season that Tony Smith could've selected for the England squad in preference to the incumbents?

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



IMO Ellis, Leon Pryce, Gleeson and Bridge would all of done a better job. Leon Pryce should be in the team IMO just not in the halves.

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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Quote: Odemwingie "IMO Ellis, Leon Pryce, Gleeson and Bridge would all of done a better job. Leon Pryce should be in the team IMO just not in the halves.'"
You support Wigan don't you?

What were the alternatives from your club that Tony Smith could've called upon to play centre for England in this tournament? Why did those alternatives (if there were any) not perform better during the domestic season to give us all a hint at how much better they would've been at outplaying Inglis on Saturday?

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Quote: G1 "Lots of complaining about Lee Smith not being up to the task.

How could your club have helped?

At Leeds our first choice centres were Keith Senior and Lee Smith. Their backups who also saw time were Kallum Watkins and Ashley Gibson. That's 4 players who qualify for England leaving aside opinions on whether they're good enough.

You see, if you're not English (or qualified to play for England) then whether you're good enough is a moot point.

So, for all those of you sticking the boot in, lets' see. Who were your Centres this season that Tony Smith could've selected for the England squad in preference to the incumbents?'"


Unfortunately, England's best centre on Saturday was a 20 year old rookie scrum half.

From Saints, I would have preferred either Pryce or Eastmond to play there. We've had to rely on past it Aussies as our centres for the last couple of years. icon_wink.gif

Of those who qualify to play as a centre for England, regardless of his woeful performance on Saturday, Smith still ranks quite highly in the grand scheme of things which shows how bad the state of our backs is. I'd reather have him in there than Bridge, Sykes or moving our best second rower out there.

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Never trust an RL fan who dresses in such a fashion so as to resemble a humbug! ;-):



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Quote: Sthelens RLFC "Unfortunately, England's best centre on Saturday was a 20 year old rookie scrum half.

From Saints, I would have preferred either Pryce or Eastmond to play there. We've had to rely on past it Aussies as our centres for the last couple of years.
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Quote: 13rovers "Tony Clubb'"
He's not a Rovers player is he? Who did your team provide for Tony Smith's delictation?

Regardless, did Tony Clubb really stand out during the course of the season as being head and shoulders above the centres in the squad?

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Quote: G1 "Lots of complaining about Lee Smith not being up to the task.

How could your club have helped?

At Leeds our first choice centres were Keith Senior and Lee Smith. Their backups who also saw time were Kallum Watkins and Ashley Gibson. That's 4 players who qualify for England leaving aside opinions on whether they're good enough.

You see, if you're not English (or qualified to play for England) then whether you're good enough is a moot point.

So, for all those of you sticking the boot in, lets' see. Who were your Centres this season that Tony Smith could've selected for the England squad in preference to the incumbents?'"


I'm not quite sure what you're getting at. Are you saying that if my club doesn't have a better centre than Smith, then I can't comment about his performance? Not having a pop, just wondering what you're asking.

Gleeson
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O'Loughlin (According to Tony Smith)

Do you think the fact that Smith Played Lockers at centre in the friendly perhaps showed how much faith he had in Smith as a centre?

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Kirk Yeaman, Craig Hall, Graeme Horne, Tom Briscoe and Richard Whiting. Don't know if any would have being better then Smith TBH, Hall and Briscoe are good talents but don't think there ready yet.

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Quote: G1 "He's not a Rovers player is he? Who did your team provide for Tony Smith's delictation?

Regardless, did Tony Clubb really stand out during the course of the season as being head and shoulders above the centres in the squad?'"


Kris Welham. Not ready for internationals yet (in my opinion) having only just finished his first full season but in a few years time he could be an option. It's safe to say Fox and Welham would have been a lot more organised on England's wing than Briscoe and Smith were!

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Quote: j_hunter_hkr "Kris Welham. Not ready for internationals yet (in my opinion) having only just finished his first full season but in a few years time he could be an option. It's safe to say Fox and Welham would have been a lot more organised on England's wing than Briscoe and Smith were!'"


They'd have the advantage of being working together though.

In all honesty Briscoe has done well to be just in the squad considering his age and how FC have performed as a team this season. I see Briscoe as a future centre though not a winger and it looks like he will be given that chance with him being assigned the number 3 shirt for next season.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: G1 "You support Wigan don't you?

What were the alternatives from your club that Tony Smith could've called upon to play centre for England in this tournament? Why did those alternatives (if there were any) not perform better during the domestic season to give us all a hint at how much better they would've been at outplaying Inglis on Saturday?'"


Sorry, did not read it properly at all.

I know for a fact that Goulding would of done a much better job than Smith did in defence, infact Feka would of done better.

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Quote: Odemwingie "I know for a fact that Goulding would of done a much better job than Smith did in defence, infact Feka would of done better.'"


Why did they hide this trophy winning level of ability all season?

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At Huddersfield Michael Lawrence young athletic and defensively very good. Reminds me of a young Gary Connolly. Would have been far better than Smith defensively.

Alternatively Lee Gilmour Huddersfield and Saints would have been the better bet at this moment in time

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All the suggestions are awful and none of them play for leeds.

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