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| Despite the comments from our puerile Aussie friend here, it looks simple enough to me:
1) Neutral ref should be appointed
2) If one of the finalist objects to a neutral ref, they should have no say about who gets the job instead.
As for 'we should have the best ref for the final', apart from the obvious question [i' According to whom? '[/i on this logic 'we should have the best' should maybe apply to the teams as well? On this basis, as Aus and NZ contested the last WC final, we should 'select' Aus v NZ for the 4 Nations final, never mind the actual results.
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| Says something about the Aussies that after 30-odd years of crushing superiority, they still try and work every angle to get an advantage. Reminds me of Bill Murray's character in Kingpin.
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| Quote Green_and_gold="Green_and_gold"its the final so you need the best ref available'"
Which automatically disbars any Australian referee. We've had far too many "patriotic" refereeing displays over the years.
It's a straightforward choice between M. Alibert or Leon Williamson.
If the Aussies are going to bleat on about French Referees not being acceptable and not wanting amateurs, they might like to get some Kiwi refs into the NRL.
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| Quote JonM="JonM"Which automatically disbars any Australian referee. We've had far too many "patriotic" refereeing displays over the years.
It's a straightforward choice between M. Alibert or Leon Williamson.
If the Aussies are going to bleat on about French Referees not being acceptable and not wanting amateurs, they might like to get some Kiwi refs into the NRL.'"
You see what you've done there? You've assumed the Aussies actually give a sh*t about the world of rugby league beyond their coastline, and would like to see it develop accordingly.
International development is all well and good, providing it doesn't involve actually doing anything that doesn't raise money for the ARL.
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| Quote JonM="JonM"
If the Aussies are going to bleat on about French Referees not being acceptable and not wanting amateurs, they might like to get some Kiwi refs into the NRL.'"
That's the key point in my opinion. The Aussies are insular and care little about anything other than themselves, whereas the RFL have taken action to try and improve the international game even at the detriment of the domestic game. A good example of this is letting Alibert gain experience in Super League in an effort to promote French officials despite him clearly not being up to it.
There was even the ridiculous matter of Kiwi official Glen Black flying all the way round the world to gain experience in Super League when the biggest Rugby League comp in the world is on his door step but the Aussies clearly didn't want to know.
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| is'nt the ref for the final meant to be appointed today??
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| Quote roughyedspud="roughyedspud"is'nt the ref for the final meant to be appointed today??'"
At this rate there won't be a final.
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| The England set-up should dig their heals in and tell Sheens and co. to do one.
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| they gave us 4 aussie refs for our world cup games...so sod em'
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| Quote roughyedspud="roughyedspud"they gave us 4 aussie refs for our world cup games...so sod em''"
They keep telling us that they could put three teams out that would beat us.
They keep telling us that SL is no better than park football
They keep telling us that Origin is the most intense and toughest football ever.
Yet..... they say we roughed them up in the first game...... and ........they are sulking cos they can't get their own ref. 
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| Quote JonM="JonM"
It's a straightforward choice between M. Alibert or Leon Williamson.
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Is that the Leon Williamson who is too amateur to ref the England match, but fully capable of officiating the French match?
Face it, Oz were happy with him officiating one of their matches, they can put up with him in the final.
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| Quote Shoe Shine Johnny="Shoe Shine Johnny"They keep telling us that they could put three teams out that would beat us.
They keep telling us that SL is no better than park football
They keep telling us that Origin is the most intense and toughest football ever.
Yet..... they say we roughed them up in the first game...... and ........they are sulking cos they can't get their own ref.
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EXACTLY
Bunch of freakin gimps.
Give it to the Kiwi, he was fine
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