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Quote: JB Down Under "Sadly the game does not have enough money in it for two ten team full time competitions so we can not have P&R as teams coming up will be too weak and teams going down will be combated on and off the field.

Finding a way to fund 14 ft clubs in SL and enough money in lower divisions to be sustainable as part time development clubs is the priority for the RFL.'"



Exactly. The problem we have is money. We have enough to sustain a professional competition for 14 clubs, but only if they're supplemented by cash from sugar daddies. No drama there - that's the position of nearly every pro sports club. But we don't have enough cash to either (a) give money to the less well-supported clubs of the championship to go professional, (b) raise the salary cap for those clubs with cash, because to do so would make the current league-within-a-league divisions even more entrenched, or (c) to compete with the NRL or RU for top players.

There are two answers to this. The first is to focus hard on youth development systems so that we produce enough decent talent to replace the ones who get poached by richer competitions. To be fair to the cliubs and the RFL, that is certainly in a lot better state than it was. The second is to get more cash from TV, more cash from sponsorship and more cash from international tournaments.

The problem is that the RFL have, in the last decade, proved themselves to be utterly useless at raising cash. The Stobart free gift of the whole competition for 12 lorries was an utterly insane decision which has come back to bite us this year, because no sponsor is going to pay large bucks for something which the owners value so little that they gave it away. In addition, the negotiations with SKY over TV deals have been so poor by comparison to other sports commanding a similar audience. The canny international execs at SKY must watch Nigel wandering through their door with his begging bowl, and start laughing behind their hands.

As others have said, this is an attempt to address a problem we don't have. Our problem is not a lack of games between the top 12 clubs and the next 12, or a lack of fixtures. Our problem is a lack of money, and I'd rather the RFL actually used their time and energy employing someone who might actually be able to get some companies to part with some cash, and deliver a decent TV deal, than waste it on this nonsense.

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"That plan would see 11 rounds of the 12-team format, allowing every club to play each other, before the top eight from the top division would splinter away into their own competition.

The bottom four teams in the revamped Super League would finish the season playing in an eight-team competition involving the top four teams in the Championship. The bottom eight teams of the Championship would contest the third tier."

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"That plan would see 11 rounds of the 12-team format, allowing every club to play each other, before the top eight from the top division would splinter away into their own competition.

The bottom four teams in the revamped Super League would finish the season playing in an eight-team competition involving the top four teams in the Championship. The bottom eight teams of the Championship would contest the third tier."

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How does this help anything?

Minor details like...what will be the salary cap(s?) during this fiasco? come to mind. How will clubs possibly plan revenue/expenditure against this uncertainty? Will the lower SL and higher championship teams go on a spending spree to try and ensure they get SL places (with resulting administration later for those that fail and maybe even some that succeed)? And what about the lottery that is the fixture list - imagine getting your away games in the first 11 games against top teams! Which teams will be landed with 6 away games?

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So here is how it could look in 2015Super League 1

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So halfway through the season perhaps Salford, London, Wakefield and Toulouse split off and play Hull KR, Widnes, Castleford, and either Halifax or Sheffield or Featherstone for the right to be in the top four promoted back up to Super League 1 the following year.

Isn't it likely that the bottom four SL 1 clubs, with their superior funding, will be too strong for the top 4 SL 2 clubs, and nothing will be achieved?

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I used to be for franchising, I used to be for locked Super League, I used to be pro salary cap, but it has been poorly managed, the fans are getting totally ignored and shat on, from the introduction of the Bonus Point to this ridiculous idea of split divisions, in my opinion Nigel Wood & the RFL are slowly but surely bringing the game to it's knees.

Instead of building on a straight easy system that works, top 5 play offs and regular up and down in a 12 team division for the top flight and throughout the divisions keeping a small but important amount of imports we have a division being split into more playoffs and more and more sub divisions.

Hard enough for the most ardent supporters to follow.

It's time for the people at the top of the think about reverting to regular league systems that are easy to follow, sometimes simple is the best policy.

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2015, two tens, bottom 4in SL 2014 plus Toulouse fax Fev sheff Leigh and 1 other
SL 1 gets as now, SL 2 gets about £650k more if extra funding is found. Cap in 1 - £2.2m with £1.8m min, £1.2 m in 2
27 games, 5 team play off, 1up 1 down
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Quote: Sadfish "www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/article-2319211/Super-League-faces-major-restructuring-end-season.html

"That plan would see 11 rounds of the 12-team format, allowing every club to play each other, before the top eight from the top division would splinter away into their own competition.

The bottom four teams in the revamped Super League would finish the season playing in an eight-team competition involving the top four teams in the Championship. The bottom eight teams of the Championship would contest the third tier."


So you don't like 1 up 1 down, but you like the idea of 4 down half way through the season.

This will be a disaster for the sport. Yes the games will be more competitive for the top 8'teams. The championship will be a joke. 4 teams on a cap of 180k and 4 teams on a cap of 1.6 mil. That's going to be competitive!!!!!

Also when one if the biggest problems facing SL is a talent drain to union and the NRL, the RFL think it's a good idea to reduce the cap!

Madness and this will take the sport back even more than licensing.

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