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| Quote: cadoo "I have yet to see anything on this thread that is "constructive criticism". People are ignoring the facts completely.'"
People are entitled to say that Wigan should be focusing on their youth. If it is "world-class", their entire squad should be from Wigan bar 1/2 overseas players.
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| Quote: Eastbourne Warrior "There isn't a problem. It's just another excuse, however unjustified for people to have a pop at Wigan. It's just a hobby for some.'"
Suppose it's a consequence of success (and cynically cheating your way out of relegation).
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| Quote: Fully "People are entitled to say that Wigan should be focusing on their youth. If it is "world-class", their entire squad should be from Wigan bar 1/2 overseas players.'"
But we are focusing on youth. More than most clubs in Super League.
I think your comment about how our entire squad should be from Wigan is hilarious and you have come across just like the rest of them.
I don't think I'll post on the VT anymore.
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| Leeds are the only team in the league without an-ex Wigan player. (Admittedly the players at Catalans, Crusaders and Warrington aren't home grown) But it's still a damn good record.
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| Quote: V For Vendetta "Leeds are the only team in the league without an-ex Wigan player. (Admittedly the players at Catalans, Crusaders and Warrington aren't home grown) But it's still a damn good record.'"
Jon Clarke ?
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| I'd completely forgotten about him.
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| Out of interest, did any of you ardent critics listen to what Shaun Wane had to say when Eddie quizzed him about the three signings?
Thought not.
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| Quote: cadoo "But we are focusing on youth. More than most clubs in Super League.
I think your comment about how our entire squad should be from Wigan is hilarious and you have come across just like the rest of them.
I don't think I'll post on the VT anymore.'"
I said entire squad bar 1/2 overseas players but don't let the whole sentence get in the way your whinge.
Focusing on youth more than most clubs? I think some clubs are behind the eight ball due being newly promoted or not having enough cash and slowly but surely some clubs are catching up.
And my comments go for every club, not just Wigan.
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| Quote: cadoo "Out of interest, did any of you ardent critics listen to what Shaun Wane had to say when Eddie quizzed him about the three signings?
Thought not.'"
No, but I read his article in the Manchester Evening News about it
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| Quote: Fully "I said entire squad bar 1/2 overseas players but don't let the whole sentence get in the way your whinge.'"
Fine entire squad bar 1/2 overseas players - it's still a silly statement to make.
Quote: Fully "Focusing on youth more than most clubs? I think some clubs are behind the eight ball due being newly promoted or not having enough cash and slowly but surely some clubs are catching up.'"
I don't have an issue to raise with over clubs over their youth policy. Frankly I'm only concerned about Wigan. Some opposition supporters seem to be just as engrossed into Wigan as me.
Quote: Fully "And my comments go for every club, not just Wigan.'"
I never dreamt for a moment that the above wasn't the case.
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| Quote: Saddened! "No, but I read his article in the Manchester Evening News about it
The type of tosh I now expect from you.
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| Quote: cadoo "Fine entire squad bar 1/2 overseas players - it's still a silly statement to make.
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Really? And here's me thinking the quota system was being reduced gradually so that we will probably have a total of 3 quota players anyway?
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| Quote: Fully "Really? And here's me thinking the quota system was being reduced gradually so that we will probably have a total of 3 quota players anyway?'"
Do you honestly believe clubs like Harlequins, Crusaders, Salford, Bradford, Wakefield, Castleford, Hull KR, Hull FC, Huddersfield and Warrington have a cat in hells chance of making the above happen?
Clubs will always find ways around it. Wigan didn't want the reclassifying of quota players as Federation trained before the rules were put in place, but the majority of the league did.
Ian Lenagan has apparent plans for a full Wigan squad made of Wigan born/trained players. I don't think this is realistic or wise.
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| Quote: cadoo "Do you honestly believe clubs like Harlequins, Crusaders, Salford, Bradford, Wakefield, Castleford, Hull KR, Hull FC, Huddersfield and Warrington have a cat in hells chance of making the above happen?
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Yes.
At Cas we've currently got four quota players - McGoldrick, Widders, Chase and Sargent. Sargent is going at the end of the season so unless we recruit more overseas players then it is possible for us.
The whole point of the licensing was to increase the production of young English players. Some clubs are doing that proactively and we're starting to see the shoots coming through now.
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| Quote: Fully "Some fans are going OTT about Wigan and some Wigan fans need to learn to stop being so sensitive and learn to take constructive criticism once in a while.'"
Please explain to me how this is constuctive criticism?
Do you not think it would be great if every club in super league produced as many good young players as Wigan do and then also bring world class players into the league? How good would super league be if every club did that?
Like Cadoo says, you ignore the facts about how many young players we produce compared to other clubs and also the FACT that 4 aussie players are leaving.
We havn't made big aussie signings since 2007 really and yet as soon as we do everyone jumps on the 'lets all insult Wigan bandwagon'. Saints signed players like Soliola and Puletua to fill gaps and no one bats an eye lid.
By arguing against these signings you are effectively saying that we should promote youth INSTEAD, well does your club always promote youth rather than singing overseas players?
Next season we will have a perfect balence of youth, experience and overseas top talent, deal with it! But just because it's Wigan it happens to become your perfect nature to complain!
You cannot argue with the facts about how many young players we promote.
Quite frankly you don't even have an argument in this.
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