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| Quote: Enicomb "Rather than fine the club, they could/should have enacted a levy on the price of Cas tickets until a predetermined amount was reached. That way at least they're fining those responsible and would encourage both those taking part to desist and those not taking part to dissuade those that do.'"
So the very same cas fans who didnt chant anything and indeed got those chanting to stop should have to pay more to get in to see there team play?
What about away fans should they have to have the price of there tickets increased too?
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| Quote: Lawrie L "quick question
As some of you think the fine is wrong, how would you have punished Castleford?'"
I'm a Castleford fan, so you would think its no surprise that I'd say there shouldn't have been a punishment but I have my reasons.
Cas should have received a stern letter of warning stating that it has been noted that the incident has taken place and that measures should be taken to prevent it ever occurring again.
I'd have sent all clubs a letter detailing that this incident has happened and it is unacceptable behaviour and that it should be made clear to fans that abusive language, homophobic chanting, racist chanting, etc, etc will not be tolerated by them or the RFL.
I am certain that if this incident had not happened at Cas, then it would have happened somewhere else before long. The fact that it has been well publicised in the media has acted as a deterrent in many ways.
Many opposition fans are quick to jump in and say that we deserved it but I bet there are fans at every club who have seen sections of their own support doing/singing things they shouldn't.
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| Quote: who needs flankers? "A much smaller fine than that! 10K would be harsh but 40K is just stupid.
As the guilty dozen or so were all school kids wouldn't it be better to find out who they are, ban them and then make the club work with the local schools in the area to educate the kids on things like this.
Make the club pay for a workshop or something for the schools like they had to educate them about bullying. Whats the point in issuing a fine and the idiots who chanted get away with it and learn nothing!'"
So exactly what action were Cas expected to do ? , Forcably eject these ' Children ' from the ground ? , then face legal action from thier parents , you cannot control the actions of a few adults let alone juniors in our ' PC ' world , the GTR manchester police force has just paid out a fortune to a coachload of Stoke City fans for telling them to vacate a pub and go home , 40 grand fine is just plain crazy
Last season as the supporters coach was leaving Fev a young lad around 9/10 years old threw a stone at the rear window , it smashed it , what exactly should have been the action taken ?
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| So a group of away fans could go to a ground , chant that one of their own is a ' puff ' and land the home club with a 40 k fine , brilliant
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| Quote: Starbug "So a group of away fans could go to a ground , chant that one of their own is a ' puff ' and land the home club with a 40 k fine , brilliant
It is the RFL we're talking about, they don't do thinking do they
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| Quote: who needs flankers? "A much smaller fine than that! 10K would be harsh but 40K is just stupid.
As the guilty dozen or so were all school kids wouldn't it be better to find out who they are, ban them and then make the club work with the local schools in the area to educate the kids on things like this.
Make the club pay for a workshop or something for the schools like they had to educate them about bullying. Whats the point in issuing a fine and the idiots who chanted get away with it and learn nothing!'"
You’re right, but unfortunately, the club don’t appear to have gone down the route you are suggesting.
Surely, they could have identified, and made an example of the culprits, either by banning orders or highlighting how they have attempted to educate them.
Every club has dead-head fans & poor stewards, it’s how the club resolves the problem and it appears Cas haven’t, in the eyes of Red Hall.
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| Should Leigh get a fine ? , on sunday I called Andy Shickel , ' a big tart ' [ obviously from the safety of the stand
Simply a case of the RFL overeacting to a bit of media attention
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| Quote: "[sizeMintball thought of the day[/size-Let's see – someone who posts in lilac all the time
Mintball-You get worse Why would homophobia be a cover for ones sexual doubts. Is racism the same and........................
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| Quote: Starbug "Simply a case of the RFL overeacting to a bit of media attention'"
Nail on head.
Considering the media attention this has received, they had to be seen as doing something.
Fining Castleford £40k does nothing to help educate against this sort of behaviour. Any fan who is homophobic isn't suddenly going to change their beliefs because of this, they're simply going to keep them quiet. The RFL should have been looking at this as a way of highlighting an issue and attempting to work with the clubs to educate the fans.
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| Quote: Legionited "Nail on head.
Considering the media attention this has received, they had to be seen as doing something.
Fining Castleford £40k does nothing to help educate against this sort of behaviour. Any fan who is homophobic isn't suddenly going to change their beliefs because of this, they're simply going to keep them quiet. The RFL should have been looking at this as a way of highlighting an issue and attempting to work with the clubs to educate the fans.'"
But should Leigh get a fine for my homophobic abuse of Mr shickel ?
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| the decision makes our sport look foolish , tbf i have always called union players p@@@s irrelevant of their sexually preferences or behaviour ..... so if a crowd started shouting at a player that he was a raving heterosexual what would happen ?? or what about the referees turned celibate
im sure the many others in the sport(and there are of course) are shaking their heads
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| Quote: Starbug "But should Leigh get a fine for my homophobic abuse of Mr shickel ?'"
Was it homophobically aggressive? Or does he look like an oversized pastry?
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| Quote: Starbug "But should Leigh get a fine for my homophobic abuse of Mr shickel ?'"
Yes, Leigh should be fined and then the club should sue you for damages.
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| Quote: MUTLEY CAT "the decision makes our sport look foolish , tbf i have always called union players p@@@s irrelevant of their sexually preferences or behaviour ..... so if a crowd started shouting at a player that he was a raving heterosexual what would happen ?? or what about the referees turned celibate
im sure the many others in the sport(and there are of course) are shaking their heads'"
So every refernce to ' wendyballers ' on here is a homophobic abuse of football players
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| Leigh should be fined for allowing Starbug in the ground and the offence listening to him must cause all those in the vicinity.
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