Think its a good idea, its only similar to how american sporting teams trade draft picks for players.

So if the Golden ticket could be traded for money and or players to teams who don't need the marquee player its a nice way for smaller teams to get money and or "cheap" squad memebers

The clubs have voted against any marquee exemption according to Koukash on twitter.

Clubs voted against marquee signing. Sanity prevails.

(Source: koukash's twitter)

Correction - Status quo prevails and a continuing slow sink into sporting irrelevance as our crowds decline and our best quality players seek more lucrative engagements elsewhere

A rule that benefits one club and one club alone doesn't get passed and it's the end of the world? Don't be so silly.

If you want Salford to be treated like a big club, learn proper cap management like the rest of the big clubs have - saints, Wigan and Leeds aren't even spending up to the cap this year (and I'd imagine Warrington too but I can't say for sure) - stop looking to cut corners chasing the top.

it wasnt one club and one club alone. Leeds are publicly in favour of a marquee exemption as well and have been for a few years.

So is Tony Smith.

I think there is a fair bit of hypocrisy in Sts and Wigan telling Koucash he needs to learn proper cap management.

Is he? I never knew that! Interesting everyone's swapped partners from the structure debate!

And just because they're for it doesn't mean they'd necessarily benefit from it!

Saints and Wigan never asked the rest of super league to just go along with it

Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Is he? I never knew that! Interesting everyone's swapped partners from the structure debate! And just because they're for it doesn't mean they'd necessarily benefit from it! Saints and Wigan never asked the rest of super league to just go along with it '" [iAt the launch he received support from the Leeds chief executive, Gary Hetherington, and the Warrington coach, Tony Smith, who have been two of the more respected and influential voices on the Super League scene for more than a decade. "I'm keen on anything that's going to raise the quality of our competition, and maybe also give us a bit of a wow factor," said Smith. "If a marquee player at each club is the best way to do that, great." Hetherington said: "We proposed this a few years ago and didn't get the support of enough clubs. But it's been brought up again by Marwan, and there are people at other clubs like Simon Moran at Warrington and Ken Davy at Huddersfield who have the private income to spend more than they are currently allowed without jeopardising the stability of their clubs.[/i www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/f ... ee-players Every one goes over to the Garys side eventually

Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Is he? I never knew that! Interesting everyone's swapped partners from the structure debate! And just because they're for it doesn't mean they'd necessarily benefit from it! Saints and Wigan never asked the rest of super league to just go along with it '" [iAt the launch he received support from the Leeds chief executive, Gary Hetherington, and the Warrington coach, Tony Smith, who have been two of the more respected and influential voices on the Super League scene for more than a decade. "I'm keen on anything that's going to raise the quality of our competition, and maybe also give us a bit of a wow factor," said Smith. "If a marquee player at each club is the best way to do that, great." Hetherington said: "We proposed this a few years ago and didn't get the support of enough clubs. But it's been brought up again by Marwan, and there are people at other clubs like Simon Moran at Warrington and Ken Davy at Huddersfield who have the private income to spend more than they are currently allowed without jeopardising the stability of their clubs.[/i www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/f ... ee-players Every one goes over to the Garys side eventually

Quote ="SmokeyTA"[iAt the launch he received support from the Leeds chief executive, Gary Hetherington, and the Warrington coach, Tony Smith, who have been two of the more respected and influential voices on the Super League scene for more than a decade. "I'm keen on anything that's going to raise the quality of our competition, and maybe also give us a bit of a wow factor," said Smith. "If a marquee player at each club is the best way to do that, great." Hetherington said: "We proposed this a few years ago and didn't get the support of enough clubs. But it's been brought up again by Marwan, and there are people at other clubs like Simon Moran at Warrington and Ken Davy at Huddersfield who have the private income to spend more than they are currently allowed without jeopardising the stability of their clubs.[/i www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/f ... ee-players Every one goes over to the Garys side eventually '" Learn something new every day - I do get the feeling ALOT of politics has gone on in rl and red hall over the summer, seems to me there's been a real power struggle behind closed doors. Anyway back on topic, as I said, if it were about keeping our best talent, I could tolerate the rule being brought in (marquee exemption applicable if said player is eligible for England etc) - otherwise, it's just another way for a rich exclusive to throw their money around - which isn't the answer.

Quote ="SmokeyTA"[iAt the launch he received support from the Leeds chief executive, Gary Hetherington, and the Warrington coach, Tony Smith, who have been two of the more respected and influential voices on the Super League scene for more than a decade. "I'm keen on anything that's going to raise the quality of our competition, and maybe also give us a bit of a wow factor," said Smith. "If a marquee player at each club is the best way to do that, great." Hetherington said: "We proposed this a few years ago and didn't get the support of enough clubs. But it's been brought up again by Marwan, and there are people at other clubs like Simon Moran at Warrington and Ken Davy at Huddersfield who have the private income to spend more than they are currently allowed without jeopardising the stability of their clubs.[/i www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/f ... ee-players Every one goes over to the Garys side eventually '" Learn something new every day - I do get the feeling ALOT of politics has gone on in rl and red hall over the summer, seems to me there's been a real power struggle behind closed doors. Anyway back on topic, as I said, if it were about keeping our best talent, I could tolerate the rule being brought in (marquee exemption applicable if said player is eligible for England etc) - otherwise, it's just another way for a rich exclusive to throw their money around - which isn't the answer.

Patronising or what?

If you can't see that this is far more than just Salford "chasing the top" then you're just being wilfully blind - but hey ho, let's just retreat to our M62 corridor, let's forget about trying to raise the profile of the whole sport and let's just rely on Barwick & Big Nigel because haven't they done well so far?

Disappointed about the marquee player bit in all this, but not disappointed about the golden ticket.
One club giving money to another for anything other than buying a player seem so wrong.

Then educate, are you going to tell me about how it expands the game in the uk? How does Salford signing a 30 something ex Aussie help crowds at London? Because everyone in London will flock to see him? - I don't buy that.

Or are you going to tell me my club lacks ambition like Salford?

There are big problems with the game at the moment, but bringing over some second rate Aussies who are either past their prime or never going to quite make it to the very top doesn't solve them.

And no more patronising that koukash offering to buy from other clubs his "right" to fill his squad with "marquee" signings.

No not just HIS right, any club's right! As was pointed out earlier in this thread "Other clubs & chairmen are available"

I absolutely agree bringing over Aussie has-beens is not the way forward (and believe me I've seen more than my fair share at Salford over the last few years!) - if we want to attract the best then we (that's ALL clubs not just Salford) have to be able to offer the best Ts & Cs - the marquee idea allows that to happen.

It would be interesting to find out just how the voting went this afternoon.

But by voting against it the other chairmen have spurned that right! Only he would really benefit from it, as as discussed the majority of clubs in the financial position to take advantage wouldn't for one reason or another! In the worst case, the clubs who weren't in a financial position would use the ruling - imagine if Bradford also had a 350k a year contract strung to them whilst going through what they are!

There are ways and means to fit it into the salary cap, as has been proven through the years, 10 years ago saints had a plan to sign sonny bill under the salary cap! - it can happen, it just needs skill to pull it off.

I'm never gonna agree with marquee exemption as I just see it as lazy, your probably never gonna disagree with it as you see it as bait for the top - let's agree to disagree!

I'd be interested to see the voting split, but also the specific terms the marquee ruling would have - from the wording of which player counts as "marquee" (whether a club gets to nominate or if it's the highest earner at the club, or it's it's the highest cap value player at the club - which could be 3 different people!) - and whether the signing would still have to fall into the strict 50% of liabilities rule.

Salford, Wigan, Warrington, Widnes and Leeds voted in favour.

Which way did Bradford vote?

I presumed the ones named above were the ones who voted in favour and the rest either voted against or abstained.

Koukash has just thanked Wigan Warrington Wdnes & leeds for there support

That's interesting. I knew Widnes were in favour of it, but I thought Saints broadly supported it too. I wonder if the specifics of the proposal didn't suit some.

A maximum of 3 could of abstained, I don't even know who Bradford could of sent to vote for them, they have no chairman, so I imagine they're one of them!

Jesus christ, how negative are you?

Cant you appreciate the positivity that a marquee exemption would bring to the sport. Your inital point (whereby you stated only one man would gain from this) was quickly proved to be noncense, with the likes of Warrington and Leeds supporting the idea. Granted only Salford, Warrington, Leeds and Huddersfield have owners with the personal wealth to fund such a player, but what is stopping the likes of St Helens, London, Castleford, Wakefield etc getting off their ar*es and sourcing additional revenue through sponsorships etc to cover the cost of a marquee superstar? Or is that too much trouble and it's just easier if we keep things as they are. If we were able to bring the likes of Cameron Smith, Billy Slater, SBW, Greg Inglis etc over to Super League it would only benefit clubs through extra merchandise sales, attendances would increase and so would the quality of Super League in general.

Instead you choose to use an example of an awfully run club in Bradford for again scourning the idea.

Saints, or rather McManus, is much more eager for the "sustainable growth" model - and wants clubs to receive more from central funding then they spend on the cap.

Also, we basically got our "marquee exemption" with the home grown rule coming in. We're unlikely to sign better than Roby, and he will only count for 100k for the next 5 years freeing up a lot of space on our cap (with lomax potentially as well) - if you believe player contract value rumours of course.

Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"If we were able to bring the likes of Cameron Smith, Billy Slater, SBW, Greg Inglis etc over to Super League it would only benefit clubs through extra merchandise sales, attendances would increase and so would the quality of Super League in general. '" Your missing my point. We wouldn't sign them. Even during the height of the strong pound era we couldn't get Tallis, or fittler or johns (minus 3 games when it suited him) In fact read this - www.theage.com.au/news/League/St ... 92413.html There's more than just throwing money to this.

Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"If we were able to bring the likes of Cameron Smith, Billy Slater, SBW, Greg Inglis etc over to Super League it would only benefit clubs through extra merchandise sales, attendances would increase and so would the quality of Super League in general. '" Your missing my point. We wouldn't sign them. Even during the height of the strong pound era we couldn't get Tallis, or fittler or johns (minus 3 games when it suited him) In fact read this - www.theage.com.au/news/League/St ... 92413.html There's more than just throwing money to this.

Off hand I can think of two sports that have a marquee player rule rugby union and that sport seems to be growing at our expense and Major League Soccer/football, they call it the Beckham rule and look at the progress they are making.
The only other sport I can think of that had a system of attracting higher quality players was Ice Hockey they scrapped it because some clubs couldn't fund it and now the League in this country has become a shop window for the better players moving to Europe. So as a sport we now have to ask do we compete or do we become a minority sport that will become a feeder sport and very soon be totally ignored by main stream media.

Think RHP represented us. Disappointed this didn't go through. We need to do something to stop the player drain. The continuing growth line is about tiresome as te "salary cap should remain the same to even the competition" line.
Was nice to see LEAGUE been linked with a top union player this morning (Manu tuilagi) wonder if we wil see the light when Tomkins joins Eastmknd, Butgess and Ashton in the England RUnsquad