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| Quote ="charlie"Video clip has turned up online with a slow mo replay'"
It looks bad on there. Cheap shot - no excuses.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"[uI may be among the minority. [/uBut this is just poor technique. And this is how Rangi often tackles, He comes out of the line with a big shoulder to put shots on, And most of the time. Its fine.
He has mistimed this one, From the way i see it, The initial contact may be in the tricep area and as his arm follows through, It looks like its an Elbow. I dont think he has intentionally attacked Ropati with an Elbow/ Forearm. Having watched Rangi over the years, This is how he tackles. Jumps in with a shoulder with his arm stiffened.
[uUnfortunately[/u, He is likely to get banned, As he has misjudged it, And caused damage. But for me, Should be 2 or 3 games. And a warning on his technique.'"
I'm suprised you would try to defend it, i thought you had more sense.
How you can say that when the other guys jaw is broken in 3 places is mind boggling.
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| no complaints from me it was deliberate and reckless and he deserves whatever he`s given.there is no place in the game for that kind of tackle.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"I may be among the minority. But this is just poor technique. And this is how Rangi often tackles, He comes out of the line with a big shoulder to put shots on, And most of the time. Its fine.
He has mistimed this one, From the way i see it, The initial contact may be in the tricep area and as his arm follows through, It looks like its an Elbow. I dont think he has intentionally attacked Ropati with an Elbow/ Forearm. Having watched Rangi over the years, This is how he tackles. Jumps in with a shoulder with his arm stiffened.
Unfortunately, He is likely to get banned, As he has misjudged it, And caused damage. But for me, Should be 2 or 3 games. And a warning on his technique.'"
Having watched it again, I'd agree with you. Although I'd say 3-4 games rather than 2-3 since it's not the first time he's misjudged a "big hit". I don't think he intentionally hit him high, but if he's going to go in to tackles like that he has to be a lot more careful.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Didn't see Ryan Bailey get banned for life when he intentionally elbowed folk.'"
It's alway comes back to Ryan doesn't it  (and just when did he "intentionally elbowed folk"?)
Just watched it on the video sharing site and it does looks like an elbow to me but it's not massively conclusive. If so it's a horrible cheap shot.
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| Thats a bad un.
Its up there with Barrie Mac on Paul Sironin or Cassidy on Morley. Not quite Hopoati mind, that was sickening
His arm was raised so high it would be hard to defend that as poor technique. His little gloat after the contact was made was a bit rude also.
6 matches i would have thought.
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| 'Rangi Chase breaks Tangi Ropati's jaw ' on the tube of you.
Ban almost certain, I would say. Terrible shot.
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| Should get threw months for GBH!
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| he literally just throws a punch and with the speed of the onrushing player just adds to the force to the jaw .
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| Coming off the back of a 5 minute period where they couldn't score and his kick just went to Andy Kain.
Next tackle Ropati's off with a broken face.
8 matches minimum for me, but taking into account his history, England player of course, slap on the wrist.
Should never ever be allowed to play for England again, he's not got the right mentality to take England to the next level.
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| Absolute disgrace and should be a lengthly ban.
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| Quote ="Him"Having watched it again, I'd agree with you. Although I'd say 3-4 games rather than 2-3 since it's not the first time he's misjudged a "big hit". I don't think he intentionally hit him high, but if he's going to go in to tackles like that he has to be a lot more careful.'"
Well, I have posted elsewhere about 3 matches, A hefty fine and a severe warning about his technique, Lets face it. If he got done again, He would be in for a 6-8 game ban after the warning.
I dont think he tried attacking the head with the Elbow/Forearm, Which is different to the Terry Newton incidents. I think he goes for a massive shot to lift his team, And BADLY misjudges it.
I wouldn't defend it, I dont think the initial contact was the elbow, And i wont argue a ban, But these saying months bans are pathetic. 3 or 4 games, And he will have to take it on the chin. May do him good.
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| More you watch it the worse it looks. He only received a caution from the disaplinary about three weeks ago for striking as well. Should be a lengthy ban, especially when you take into account the severity of the injury caused.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"More you watch it the worse it looks. He only received a caution from the disaplinary about three weeks ago for striking as well. Should be a lengthy ban, especially when you take into account the severity of the injury caused.'"
Pause it at 11 seconds and you'll see first contact is Chase's shoulder, but it's still high.
So if he gets a ban it will be the same as what Moa got for the same challenge.
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| Quote ="Lupset_Airport"6 months for me, worst challenge I've ever seen and that includes Hopoate's infamous ear bleed challenge.'"
Your view on the challenge by a Wkefield player on Friday night that left Rob Burrow with a suspectyed fractured cheekbone?
Did you post your disgust about that or is it just reserved for alleged fouls from Cas players?
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| Quote ="G1"Your view on the challenge by a Wkefield player on Friday night that left Rob Burrow with a suspectyed fractured cheekbone?
Did you post your disgust about that or is it just reserved for alleged fouls from Cas players?'"
Why?, when it's been confirmed as an accidental clash of heads with Kirmond
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Pause it at 11 seconds and you'll see first contact is Chase's shoulder, but it's still high.
So if he gets a ban it will be the same as what Moa got for the same challenge.'"
You really do need to watch both incidents again, there's no comparison with the Moa/Rinaldi incident
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| Quote ="cod'ead"You really do need to watch both incidents again, there's no comparison with the Moa/Rinaldi incident'"
They were both sloppy going for a shoulder charge and hit someone in the head.
The only difference is one was a red card, the other the ref and touch judge deemed fair...so the problem here is the consistency of officials.
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|  Unless you are watching a different tackle you must be blind. There is no shoulder charge because his arm is lifted so far away from his body.
A shoulder charge leads with the shoulder.
This is a lead with the forearm / elbow. I think it is the elbow that connects.
However without the bemefit of slow mo frame by frame it is difficult to tell.
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| Just watched it again on youtube. What a cowardly assault. Anyone excusing that as 'mistimed' or 'reckless' need their eyes testing. It was assault.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"However without the bemefit of slow mo frame by frame it is difficult to tell.'"
There's a video on the Cas board of it on slow mo, pause it at 11 seconds the contact is with his shoulder.
The problem is, Chase has a horrible technique for shoulder charging which involves limbs all over the place so at full speed (and knowing what happens as a result) it looks horrible.
However, one thing people haven't mentioned - early guilty plea if he gets charged, so 1 game.
Quote Just watched it again on youtube. What a cowardly assault. Anyone excusing that as 'mistimed' or 'reckless' need their eyes testing. It was assault.'"
The fact first contact with the shoulder gives a big clue to say it wasn't intentional...if he wanted to take his head off he would have clotheslined him wouldn't you think?
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Watched it again, contact is with his bicep, and with the angle both players are on (Ropati is side stepping and slightly lowered)...purely mistimed.
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| Early guilty plea only counts if the player has a clean record in the last 12 months. Chase hasn't.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Quote ="Durham Giant"However without the bemefit of slow mo frame by frame it is difficult to tell.'"
There's a video on the Cas board of it on slow mo, pause it at 11 seconds the contact is with his shoulder.
The problem is, Chase has a horrible technique for shoulder charging which involves limbs all over the place so at full speed (and knowing what happens as a result) it looks horrible.
However, one thing people haven't mentioned - early guilty plea if he gets charged, so 1 game.
Quote Just watched it again on youtube. What a cowardly assault. Anyone excusing that as 'mistimed' or 'reckless' need their eyes testing. It was assault.'"
The fact first contact with the shoulder gives a big clue to say it wasn't intentional...if he wanted to take his head off he would have clotheslined him wouldn't you think?
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Watched it again, contact is with his bicep, and with the angle both players are on (Ropati is side stepping and slightly lowered)...purely mistimed.'"
There is none so blind as he who will not see.
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| Can see the arm bent, raised and swung. No defending that.
4-5 games and a fine. Hope ropati recovers ok.
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| It looked like a deliberate head shot to me, as has already been said, the ban received should reflect the length of time the injured player is out for, if Ropati is going to be out for 8 weeks, so should Chase.
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