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| Quote ="Omar Little"The paranoia of Hull fans doesn't really add up IMHO:
a) If Kath H was only offering a low deal to Briscoe to set up a deal then wouldn't others at Hull (eg Rule) have noticed something was amiss; and
b) Why would Kath even need to risk tipping off Garry - players have agents.'"
It's become pretty clear that Rule was in the "how high?" gang so wouldn't have said anything.
Who knows what was said in the comfort of the Hetherington house?
I have no evidence of any wrongdoing and like others am not sure Pearson's statement was the wisest, but the whole thing (not just the limited "were the transfer rules broken"icon_wink.gif needed looking into. There's nothing to say that has happened in the RFL announcement
And it's not paranoia if they [uwere[/u shafting the club ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| I demand the RFL investigate Hull FC's signings of Ewan Dowes & Garreth Carvell, and the loan signings of Jodie Broughton & Paul McShane. They were stolen out from under our noses, it's obvious what was going on. Who knows what was said in the Hetherington house.
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| Quote ="Bigger Daddy"Pearson asked the RFL to investigate the transfer of Luke Briscoe to Leeds. It seems as though the investigation has been limited to the application of transfer fee rules for young players. Perhaps Pearson felt that the other circumstances of the transfer were worthy of investigation:
That the wife of a SL club CEO, while working at a competitor club, arranged contract offers for a promising young player at that club which meant he could transfer to her husband's club at no cost.
Maybe no rules have been broken and it's simply "sharp practice".
I agree with other Hull fans that Pearson's rant against general RFL mismanagement might not be savvy. At least he's open and honest though.'" To be fair, you would hope the RFL’s investigation into the transfer of a young player would be limited to the application of the rules for transfers of young players. Anything else would be a nonsense.
And Adam Pearson hasn’t been open and honest, he has relied on innuendo. He hasn’t been open and honest about what the issue is, he has allowed speculation to fill the vacuum because the ‘common enemy’ of the big bad previous owners makes him look good in comparison.
If Adam Pearson has the evidence, make the accusation and stand by it, have the courage of your convictions.
Don’t hide behind inferences and innuendo, its pathetic
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Apart from the fact they imploded just after he got out of dodge of course.
Apart from that you are pretty much spot on with the rest of your post..'"
Is there any club that hasn't had significant financial problems soon after he he was involved with them?
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Is there any club that hasn't had significant financial problems soon after he he was involved with them?'"
Didn't he join Derby after their financial problems? I don't follow football, but they are doing OK financially at the moment aren't they?
The rest of the problems at clubs after he left have been because they've gotten to a level too high and the current management haven't been able to handle it.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Quote ="JB Down Under"Is there any club that hasn't had significant financial problems soon after he he was involved with them?'"
Didn't he join Derby after their financial problems? I don't follow football, but they are doing OK financially at the moment aren't they?
The rest of the problems at clubs after he left have been because they've gotten to a level too high and the current management haven't been able to handle it.'"
I think he joined Derby significantly after they went through administration but IIRC they have had numerous financial problems since then too!
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"The rest of the problems at clubs after he left have been because they've gotten to a level too high and the current management haven't been able to handle it.'"
So he has a history of taking failing clubs, getting them to a level they can't possibly sustain and then cashing out before it all comes falling down?
Happy times ahead for Hull FC fans.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"So he has a history of taking failing clubs, getting them to a level they can't possibly sustain and then cashing out before it all comes falling down?
Happy times ahead for Hull FC fans.'"
Yopu could say that about any club going but wasnt his faulf that Risdale and Duffen was nutcases with money.As for FC,he has tried to buy us before bit KH wanted too much money.Im more happier with Pearson in charge than the previous regime who has put our youth structure at least 2yrs behind everyone else and Pearson has spent £150,000 getting the training facilities upto scratch.He said at the last fans forum that the club is a top 4 club but was ran ata bottom 4 club rate.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Yopu could say that about any club going but wasnt his faulf that Risdale and Duffen was nutcases with money.As for FC,he has tried to buy us before bit KH wanted too much money.Im more happier with Pearson in charge than the previous regime who has put our youth structure at least 2yrs behind everyone else and Pearson has spent £150,000 getting the training facilities upto scratch.He said at the last fans forum that the club is a top 4 club but was ran ata bottom 4 club rate.'"
TBH without adam taking over and pouring his money in, i dread to think were we would be now with all the lies and under investement from the last regime
Think was pulling the wool over our eyes for years, telling us what we wanted to hear, then when questioned by anyone like my good self was made an outcast unless you wanted to believe in there vision that all was good in the hood
The way she treat the fans was a disgrace
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"So he has a history of taking failing clubs, getting them to a level they can't possibly sustain and then cashing out before it all comes falling down?
Happy times ahead for Hull FC fans.'"
I had you down for a little more than the average troll but you've surprised me. A quick look on google will tell you that's far from being the case.
Given that the only people who could not see where Leeds Utd were heading were Ridsdale and a few thousand of the more myopic Leeds fans, an opportunity to acquire Hull City for a song, is not one many would have passed up. Pearson then oversaw a steady rise in fortune including re-locating to the KC and promotion to the Championship. It was obvious to him that he didn't have the resource to take the club further and sold out to Duffen, Bartlett & Walker. It was shortly after this time that he first made a bid to buy Hull FC but no-balls Hetherington's valuation of circa £7m was way too steep a price to pay, so looked elsewhere. He acquired the majority shareholding in Derby County, became executive chairman and immediately sought and found foreign financial backers.
I've few worries about his involvement in Hull FC, certainly far fewer than I would have had if Hetherington was still involved
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| Dont see what the problem is with a chairman commenting on issues which could only be for the good of the game? Why should teams favoured by the rfl be given the green light to poach players from a poorer team trying to develop itslelf fairly? Why should the rfl agree to a sponorship deal which 50% of clubs did not agree with and most sensible people do either? From the outside looking in it gives the impression the rfl are more intrested in looking after itself as a business and the clubs that make it richer than what is best for the game as a whole!
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Or the way you read it.
You decide.'"
No, it was the way it was delivered.
Why make any point of his non attendance at all IF his CEO has indeed gone along?
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"No, it was the way it was delivered.
Why make any point of his non attendance at all IF his CEO has indeed gone along?'" There is no 'IF' as he does indeed attend.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Only just bought a club and now he wants to tell the RFL how to run their business. He'll be telling the NRL how to run their game next!'"
![NAUGHTY eusa_naughty.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_naughty.gif) That's my job, as well you know JB ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"So he has a history of taking failing clubs, getting them to a level they can't possibly sustain and then cashing out before it all comes falling down?
Happy times ahead for Hull FC fans.'"
No, that is not what I said. I said that after he has left the club, they have then gone on to a higher level that they could not sustain. Pearson got them to a high level that is sustainable at the time, and the new owners have attempted to take them further than they were ready to.
City are in a similar position now to when Pearson left. They then went on to the Premier League under new owners who took the "all or bust" method, and went up sh*ts creek.
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| Ian Lenagan now added to ever growing list ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="littlerich"Ian Lenagan now added to ever growing list
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And strangely, over something which is obviously Wigan Warriors fault and not the RFLs. The RFL's verbal bitchslap of Wigan is nice to see though.
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| I smell a breakaway wafting towards my nostrils.
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| Quote ="littlerich"I smell a breakaway wafting towards my nostrils.'" with the idiocy of some SL chairmen it wouldnt surprise me.
But the RFL are a pretty convenient scapegoat for some SL chairmen at the moment, if they did break away, who would they be able to blame for their failings then?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"with the idiocy of some SL chairmen it wouldnt surprise me.
But the RFL are a pretty convenient scapegoat for some SL chairmen at the moment, if they did break away, who would they be able to blame for their failings then?'"
They'd setup a new league separate in many ways from the rest of rugby league, formed on a basis where major decisions such as new rules & regulations, promotion & relegation criteria and decisions on sponsorship etc are taken by a vote of the clubs, hire a competent, intelligent, southerner to run it, then, when they spend more money than they are receiving from income, blame it all on said southerner.
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| I know they could call it a "SuperLeague"!
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| Quote ="littlerich"Ian Lenagan now added to ever growing list
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I'm not sure what the RFL could do. By dint of fate, they were drawn at home, the broadcaster wanted the game on a certain day, and it's their own stadium that the problem is with on that day. Should the RFL tell the BBC they can't pick what they want to show?
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| R.Haggety asked what went on .
Well young Bristoe was offered a reduced contract as Uncle Kath and Co was selling up .
Pearson takes over offers better contract but Leeds know about first one that makes him [Bristoe a free agent,
Any other buisness would class this as insider dealing.
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| Quote ="oud3pstander"R.Haggety asked what went on .
Well young Bristoe was offered a reduced contract as Uncle Kath and Co was selling up .
Pearson takes over offers better contract but Leeds know about first one that makes him [Bristoe a free agent,
Any other buisness would class this as insider dealing.'"
Plenty of other people have been asked for evidence of this and none has been provided, so has some evidence been found to back this up?
Any other business would have been taken to court for libel by now with some of Adam Pearson's comments.
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| Quote ="Him"Plenty of other people have been asked for evidence of this and none has been provided, so has some evidence been found to back this up?'"
I'd hazard a guess that you're asking the wrong people. It's been reported that the club have some evidence - including messages left on the 'phone system at the KC and/or emails - but it's highly unlikely that anyone who posts on here has access to it.
Quote ="Him"Any other business would have been taken to court for libel by now with some of Adam Pearson's comments.'"
You might want to have a think about why that hasn't happened.
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