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| Quote ="SamoanTiger"St Helens RLFC
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Luke Wales, Shannon McDonnell, Olly Davies*, Matthew Haggarty* [all released
Levy N'Zoungou [Melbourne Storm u21's
* - have signed for a championship side but no club named yet'"
Olly Davies and Matthew Haggarty have both signed for Halifax RLFC.
Are they any good?
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| Just out of curiosity, and being bloody minded, how many have been signed from local amateur clubs and the clubs development systems?
Or, as I suspect, the easy option is once again being taken.
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"Just out of curiosity, and being bloody minded, how many have been signed from local amateur clubs and the clubs development systems?
Or, as I suspect, the easy option is once again being taken.'"
Wakefield have signed Hirst from Dewsbury, he's also gay but sadly not black or a Hindu else he'd have ticked every box.
Seriously I think the days of taking players straight from Amateur clubs are long gone. Sadly I have to say it's because most of the clubs simply arn't run well enough anymore to produce the players and the players who are of limited interest seem to want a big contract immediately. I do though think he Championship remains grossly under exploited with a number of players who IMO are every bit as good as some of the Aussie/NZ and French players who do get a gig - ditto top Academy teams - but for some reason chances or second chances are not the norm over here - in contrast in the NRL players often disapear into the feeder clubs and bush football only to re-emerger better and stronger a few years later.
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| Could there be a case (or even a way) to make our amateur Clubs feeder Clubs to the pro & semi/pro leagues ?
I am thinking that the pro club's could provide additional financing to our amateur partners in return for those Clubs & players being affiliated members of their parent Clubs.
Leigh could/would have Miners & East *St Helens have reportedly taken players from these rececently*, Wigan would have St Pat's etc.
I don't know how this works in Oz or how it could work here, if at all, just throwing out an idea.
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Could there be a case (or even a way) to make our amateur Clubs feeder Clubs to the pro & semi/pro leagues ?
I am thinking that the pro club's could provide additional financing to our amateur partners in return for those Clubs & players being affiliated members of their parent Clubs.
Leigh could/would have Miners & East *St Helens have reportedly taken players from these rececently*, Wigan would have St Pat's etc.
I don't know how this works in Oz or how it could work here, if at all, just throwing out an idea.'"
That's how it should be but Australian clubs and the NRL are run by high Cali teams individuals. They don't always get it right but when compared to there short sited self serving British equivalents they are brilliant.
Most of ours can't run a club or its governing body. Even our biggest clubs are poorly run by idiots of the highest order.
Gary hetherington is by far the most competent administrator - make of that what you will. It would take a lot of competent administrators and a fair bit of cash to run what you suggest. Our lot would cock it up and we'd abandon it within a year 
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Could there be a case (or even a way) to make our amateur Clubs feeder Clubs to the pro & semi/pro leagues ?
I am thinking that the pro club's could provide additional financing to our amateur partners in return for those Clubs & players being affiliated members of their parent Clubs.
Leigh could/would have Miners & East *St Helens have reportedly taken players from these rececently*, Wigan would have St Pat's etc.
I don't know how this works in Oz or how it could work here, if at all, just throwing out an idea.'"
Without going as far as being feeder clubs some of that is supposed to happen already. Embed the Pathway and Sky Try are concerted efforts by the RFL to get Pro Clubs more involved in schools in their area and to work in partnership with the junior set ups in their local amateur clubs. Also to provide a route from Junior amateur rugby to pro clubs academies/first teams and back again if the players don't make it. The idea being to keep them involved in the sport and potentially have further attempts at becoming pro players again in the future.
According to Leigh East and Miners there is little relationship between them and the Centurions and little activity with them (which surprised me as from the outside Leigh always appear to be well connected to their community). Warrington seem to be doing the best from the feedback I've heard from the community clubs. My club Salford have traditionally had a non-existent or even hostile relationship with local clubs but have recently really stepped up their game and the Foundation is doing some great work. Early days but encouraging.
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| Cas sign Jesse Sene-Lefao from Cronulla on a two-year deal.
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| Quote ="vastman"Wakefield have signed Hirst from Dewsbury, he's also gay but sadly not black or a Hindu else he'd have ticked every box.'"
What are the odds on Wakey signing two players called Hirst (the other one from Batley), and both of them being gay? 
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| Quote ="Fully"Cas sign Jesse Sene-Lefao from Cronulla on a two-year deal.'"
Lock Lane packed up then? 
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| Judah Mazive - Wakefield Trinity (academy product) - 1 year initial deal
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"Lock Lane packed up then?
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Give over, look at the signings cas have made, young british lads as well sick of all this nonsense about teams signing from Oz, and one club in Cas isnt going to give enough players with enough quality to get plenty going into the first team.
Well done Cas for making another very strong signing
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| Mitchell Dobbs
Warrington Wolves >> Brisbane Broncos
Matt Sarsfield
Salford Red Devils >> Swinton Lions
Olly Davies
St Helens >> Swinton Lions
Setaimata Sa
Widnes Vikings >> Mackay Cutters
Matthew Haggarty
St Helens RLFC >> Halifax RLFC
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| Quote ="bentleberry"Judah Mazive - Wakefield Trinity (academy product) - 1 year initial deal'"
Is that the best name in RL 
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Is that the best name in RL
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Awesome name isn't it!!! Not a bad player either with bags of potential
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| Quote ="thepimp007"Give over, look at the signings cas have made, young british lads as well sick of all this nonsense about teams signing from Oz, and one club in Cas isnt going to give enough players with enough quality to get plenty going into the first team.
Well done Cas for making another very strong signing'"
Why can't Lock Lane or other amateur clubs provide players?
Can you be confident that this NRL fringe player at best, actually knows who and where Castleford is and really will be a club man?
Anyway at least people will understand why we can't produce players in this country and where money is being wasted.
Don't think he will make Cas any better than a team making up the numbers when the SL 8's start
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Is that the best name in RL
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There is (or was) a lad in our academy called Zeus Silk.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Is that the best name in RL
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As long as he's a full back
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"Why can't Lock Lane or other amateur clubs provide players?
Can you be confident that this NRL fringe player at best, actually knows who and where Castleford is and really will be a club man?
Anyway at least people will understand why we can't produce players in this country and where money is being wasted.
Don't think he will make Cas any better than a team making up the numbers when the SL 8's start'"
You do realise Cas have a squad of 34, 26 of which are players eligible to play for British nations. Moreover, 15 of those came from Castleford's academy, plus Crooks and Patrick who are from this area. 11 of those have played a first team SL game with Westerman, Gill, Million and Sheehan the young kids so far not to.
Your comment would have more legs if you didn't pick on one of the sides outside of Wigan, Saints and Leeds who has a vested interested in youth progression and a credible record at doing so.
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| Quote ="Fully"You do realise Cas have a squad of 34, 26 of which are players eligible to play for British nations. Moreover, 15 of those came from Castleford's academy, plus Crooks and Patrick who are from this area. 11 of those have played a first team SL game with Westerman, Gill, Million and Sheehan the young kids so far not to.
Your comment would have more legs if you didn't pick on one of the sides outside of Wigan, Saints and Leeds who has a vested interested in youth progression and a credible record at doing so.'"
Indeed, Patrick spent more time in the Castleford academy system than he did in Huddersfield's.
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| Quote ="scarrie"There is (or was) a lad in our academy called Zeus Silk.'"
That's even better 
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| Quote ="Solly"Luke Walsh to Catalan'"
Oh dear. Bit of a down grade from Carney, although he wasn't the revelation most expected him to be.
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"Just out of curiosity, and being bloody minded, how many have been signed from local amateur clubs and the clubs development systems?
Or, as I suspect, the easy option is once again being taken.'"
We are supposedly signing three from Bradford. Does that count?
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| Quote ="Fully"You do realise Cas have a squad of 34, 26 of which are players eligible to play for British nations. Moreover, 15 of those came from Castleford's academy, plus Crooks and Patrick who are from this area. 11 of those have played a first team SL game with Westerman, Gill, Million and Sheehan the young kids so far not to.
Your comment would have more legs if you didn't pick on one of the sides outside of Wigan, Saints and Leeds who has a vested interested in youth progression and a credible record at doing so.'"
Three players you mentioned there are Loch lane juniors, so his point is invalid, there must be 20 players in super league come from loch lane
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| Quote ="SamoanTiger"
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