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Quote: sanjunien "well,first of all more national (and local) exposure might just provoke the good people of Leigh to realise they have first-class entertainment on their doorsteps, that's assuming terrestrial tv has reached that neck of the woods....Leigh is a biggish place so why is the local populus so reticent about supporting their team ? Leigh,along with all the other dozens of teams have to take responsability for their own situation,don't you think ?
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Do you seriously think the people of Leigh dont know they have a RL team ?

Do you know where Leigh is ?

Do you know the competition we have from true ' first class ' sports entertainment on our doorstep , 3 of the biggest football clubs in the world , 3 other premiership football clubs , 2 of the most successful RL clubs in England , 2 [ soon to be 3 ] other SL clubs all within 30 minutes drive

Since the inception of Franchising , what exactly do we have to offer ? , our location has and will be used against us , and that is out of our control

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Quote: sanjunien "I can't see what differerence playing on a sunday makes to having a family entertainment programme post-match ! Unless of course you have to be at the Evening Service at half-six...The climate isn't actually that relevant - only half the TO post-match entertainment is outside during the season - for example, last years' TO v Leigh game post match 'do' was indoors if you recall ! (with the local brass band) . All the Villeneuve post-match entertainments are indoors cos' the LER operates during the winter months and it gets blinkin' cold down Toulouse way from november to march ! but that doesn't stop the supporters attending week in week out.

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As I posted before , we used to have post match entertainment when were played at Hilton park , since the move to the LSV that has stopped for all but the corporate side of things , as quite simply there is nowhere to have it and the cost is too much , however ' music and beer ' are not going to bring another 1,500 fans to the games . just for the record , how many fans do attend the Elite 1 matches ?

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Quote: sanjunien "Lots of blame has to be put at the doors of the clubs themselves for not promoting the game in a professional & commercial manner - the survival of clubs in C/C1 is largely in their own hands - more reponsable management and maybe a lowering of expectations (living beyond their means etc).'"


Yes the clubs have to share some of the blame , unfortunatly most if not all are just trying to survive , leaving little if any money for Marketing themselves , that is why I have suggested it is arranged and financed by the RFL on their behalf , the bottom line is that they have removed the most marketable thing the lower tier clubs had ' promotion ' and the RFL seem either incapable or uninterested in finding something to replace it

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Do you seriously think the people of Leigh dont know they have a RL team ?

answer other SL clubs all within 30 minutes drive

answer : yes,that's stating the bl*****g obvious - it has always been tough for all RL teams to compete in the rl heartlands and it always will be
If you believe your club has done the utmost to increase interest in your catchment area then,my friend,your club is DOOMED
Leigh,along with all the others will just have to scale down,manage their affairs better and lower their ambitions just to survive.
By the way,what excuse can you give for the lack of support for the likes of Whitehaven or Workington which are even further north of Watford ? and certainly a fair drive from the 'first class' sporting venues you describe ! Maybe they all head for the hotbed of footie that is Carlisle Utd ?

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Quote: Starbug "Yes the clubs have to share some of the blame , unfortunatly most if not all are just trying to survive , leaving little if any money for Marketing themselves , that is why I have suggested it is arranged and financed by the RFL on their behalf , the bottom line is that they have removed the most marketable thing the lower tier clubs had ' promotion ' and the RFL seem either incapable or uninterested in finding something to replace it'"


quite agree


regarding LER crowds - I can't say offhand but I will find out - it's not a cop out,I just don't know

off the top of my head I would estimate a crowd of about 800 - 1000 for the Villeneuve games

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Quote: sanjunien "quite agree


regarding LER crowds - I can't say offhand but I will find out - it's not a cop out,I just don't know

off the top of my head I would estimate a crowd of about 800 - 1000 for the Villeneuve games'"


Very poor then , they need to market themselves better or lower their expectations

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Quote: Starbug "Very poor then , they need to market themselves better or lower their expectations'"


probably,but their expectations aren't that great to begin with - the LER maybe with the exception of FCL & UTC are parochial clubs and always will be - they are not sleeping giants such as Widnes etc - they know their place and cut their cloth accordingly - the LER is a totally different concept just as france is a totally different culture to that of the UK - don't try to make comparisons.
Union dominates down south and it always will,end of.

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Quote: sanjunien "probably,but their expectations aren't that great to begin with - the LER maybe with the exception of FCL & UTC are parochial clubs and always will be - they are not sleeping giants such as Widnes etc - they know their place and cut their cloth accordingly - the LER is a totally different concept just as france is a totally different culture to that of the UK - don't try to make comparisons.
Union dominates down south
and it always will,end of.'"
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So they play in the highest league in the country ?

Football dominates in the northwest of England and always will , end of

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Quote: sanjunien "probably,but their expectations aren't that great to begin with - the LER maybe with the exception of FCL & UTC are parochial clubs and always will be - they are not sleeping giants such as Widnes etc - they know their place and cut their cloth accordingly - the LER is a totally different concept just as france is a totally different culture to that of the UK - don't try to make comparisons.
Union dominates down south and it always will,end of.'"


That's what the southerners tried on with us in 1895 , that's why RL was born , dont expect us to bend over and take it

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Quote: Starbug "That's what the southerners tried on with us in 1895 , that's why RL was born , dont expect us to bend over and take it'"



it's a pity it now appears to be dying...........

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Quote: sanjunien "it's a pity it now appears to be dying...........'"


It's been "dying" since before i was born. Hell, it's a long and slow death.

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Quote: Starbug "y

So they play in the highest league in the country ?

Football dominates in the northwest of England and always will , end of'"



yes,the LER is as good as it gets - the general level is probably mid-Championship standard ie Leigh

yes,football dominates in the northwest - even in Carlisle ?

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Quote: sanjunien "yes,the LER is as good as it gets - the general level is probably mid-Championship standard ie Leigh

yes,football dominates in the northwest - even in Carlisle ?'"


Think you meant Widnes there didn't you icon_razz.gif

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Quote: DemonUK "Think you meant Widnes there didn't you
I think I meant every club in the C/C1 with the exception of Fev and maybe Fax actually,based on last years performances at TO that is

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Quote: sanjunien "yes,the LER is as good as it gets - the general level is probably mid-Championship standard ie Leigh quote]

I doubt that very much, I reckon at best mid level Championship 1.

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