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| I have to say, seeing the clip on t'interweb video it didn't look good for the steward. If another view makes it look ok then great. I guess the police have more footage.
If the dteward had assaulted someone, he deserves to be dealt with, however, in no way should that detract from the fan who was in the wrong in the first place.
I don't condone the "alleged attack from the steward, but equally, the guy put himself in that position. It's not like they picked an innocent bystander.
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| Saw similar at Chesterfield FC earlier this year. The stewards were confronting supporters then started throwing punches. One of the idiots then bragged about breaking someones nose and ripping a jacket on his Facebook page later the same evening. He's a nightclub bouncer by trade. It's bad enough these knuckle-draggers are being hired for football but for rugby it's unbelievable. Wire do know these neanderthals quite like a dust-up?
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| Didn't a handful of Widnes fans make a complaint last year against the Stewards at Wire, Think there was an article in the Weekly news about this.
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| Behave and nothing happens, simple really.
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| Quote ="Him"You'll never succeed using things like facts on here'"
You're not wrong.
Quote ="Horatio Yed"Behave and nothing happens, simple really.'"
Not really. When you have stewards who have been overheard bragging about how they like to push people around and cause trouble then it can cause trouble in any situation.
I'm not condoning this particular incident, by the way, just pointing out that things aren't always black and white.
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| was it black and white when westwood threw the bottle at the salford fans?
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"was it black and white when westwood threw the bottle at the salford fans?'"
That was. That's why loads of Salford fans were pointing out pretty much straight away that he didn't do it, and that some cretins who are known to be cretins had lied.
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| Quote ="Iain"That was. That's why loads of Salford fans were pointing out pretty much straight away that he didn't do it, and that some cretins who are known to be cretins had lied.'"
Shame that the good doctor decide to listen to the idiots in public and then IN PRIVATE apologise to the publically criticised Warrington player
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| Hopefully that Steward is reported and stripped of his licence.I am surprised the Police did not arrest the Steward, because the other Stewards had him restrained.I bet he was a doorman with no brain cells.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"was it black and white when westwood threw the bottle at the salford fans?'"
Y'know what? I give up. I'll leave serious response to Iain (as shown above), but well done for proving the point that any sensible debate on here is utterly pointless.
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| Quote ="GT"Y'know what? I give up. I'll leave serious response to Iain (as shown above), but well done for proving the point that any sensible debate on here is utterly pointless.'"
but heresay that "stewards have been heard bragging..." is part of sensible debate is it?
Fact is, apart from this, and the hull match at the end of last year, there's been no issues with the stewards/security as i can recall.
there's always grumblings from the usual suspects, but its not that bad, behave and you'll be alright.
Strangely, in 2012, ejections from the away end seemed to occur every game, but guess what, it was down to disagreements away fans and themselves in the main, which the stewards then rectified with no problems.
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| The steward involved in the fracas with the widnes fan last august was found not guilty of assault,
3 key witnesses and the alleged victim didn't bother to turn up to court to give evidence. The gentleman in question was identified on CCTV for throwing the two smoke bombs, and when the security approached to remove him, he started being aggressive, and also was biting one of the security team.
Classy.
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| Cue the faux outrage.
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| I think that they are all just a little over-tired and come half time are in need of a little lie down in a dark room with their favourite teddies for cuddles.
This should sort out the aggressive nature of our friends!
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| Quote ="wildshot"I was at the match at Wakefield and the one at the KC. Whilst the number involved at the KC was smaller the faces looked familiar. If it is the same people then there is enough CCTV and photographic evidence to identify them.
They should be banned from all Widnes matches home and away. They are tarnishing the good name of their club and from where I am I cannot seeing the Widnes club taking any action.
I was ashamed of the so called "Wakefield fans" involved in trouble with Widnes fans. At least my club responded strongly and banned these idiots. It sets a benchmark and states that violence in a rugby ground will not be tolerated.
Widnes need to do the same and quickly. If the RFL had half a brain cell between them they would be consulting with the club to stamp this out immediately.
We are supposed to be a family game. All our teams have a small element of morons in their following, however not many clubs have morons who consistently cause trouble at away matches.
Sort it out Widnes and quick. For the good of your club and the good of our game.'"
I've heard that's pretty common over there ![CURTAIN curtain.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//curtain.gif)
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"The steward involved in the fracas with the widnes fan last august was found not guilty of assault,
3 key witnesses and the alleged victim didn't bother to turn up to court to give evidence. The gentleman in question was identified on CCTV for throwing the two smoke bombs, and when the security approached to remove him, he started being aggressive, and also was biting one of the security team.
Classy.'"
Just to balance things out a little bit, the lad who was assaulted didn't turn up to court as he is currently working abroad.
Also his solicitor was told that there was no cctv footage of the alleged assault by the steward, which would make it difficult to find him guilty.
Finally the bloke who was assaulted was not the one who took the smoke bombs to the match or threw them once set off.
The behaviour of some of the Widnes fans that day was a disgrace, and there had been a few incidents at other matches, but what the steward did to the innocent party was totally out of order and could well have sparked a riot if it hadnt been for the actions of the more level headed stewarding staff and the restraint shown by the more genuine Widnes fans.
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| Think we're just going to get into a slanging match about things no one can prove now.
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