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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: PrinterThe "Quite harsh on Ireland that they drop three places in the rankings despite a good WC showing. Shows how daft these ranking systems can be at times.'"
Should be thankful they aren't the Cook Islands who drop to 30th icon_surprised.gif

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what a load of crap we are better this year then N Zealand the world cup final proved that d040.gif

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I understand the rankings are done over 5 years and that essentially whoever wins the Eng v NZ test next year will end up 2nd.

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Quote: "Third out of three teams again.'"


Good job the Tonga game didn't go on for 2 mins longer we would have been 4th out of 3

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The only thing surprising about the OP is that somebody has taken the time to post this. Nobody cares.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: cravenpark1 "what a load of crap we are better this year then N Zealand the world cup final proved that Beating Lebanon, France, PNG and New Zealand B....sorry, Tonga isn't enough...over the last 5 years England are 0-5 v the Aussies and 2-4 v the Kiwis.....beat them in next years series and you'll be #2.
I've seen Ireland in soccer beat England in Stuttgart88.......Italy at USA94 and neither time did I expect us to be ranked above England or Italy......Rankings are over a few years, not 4 weeks!

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Quote: Call Me God "Beating Lebanon, France, PNG and New Zealand B....sorry, Tonga isn't enough...over the last 5 years England are 0-5 v the Aussies and 2-4 v the Kiwis.....beat them in next years series and you'll be #2.
I've seen Ireland in soccer beat England in Stuttgart88.......Italy at USA94 and neither time did I expect us to be ranked above England or Italy......Rankings are over a few years, not 4 weeks!'"

So NZ A lost to an NZ B team then. icon_cool.gif

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Shifty Cat "So NZ A lost to an NZ B team then. Match days 17's were made up of 2 Aussies, 2 Tongans and 30 Kiwis, so pretty much, Yeah!

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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



Quote: Call Me God "Beating Lebanon, France, PNG and New Zealand B....sorry, Tonga isn't enough...over the last 5 years England are 0-5 v the Aussies and 2-4 v the Kiwis.....beat them in next years series and you'll be #2.
I've seen Ireland in soccer beat England in Stuttgart88.......Italy at USA94 and neither time did I expect us to be ranked above England or Italy......Rankings are over a few years, not 4 weeks!'"

I can understand NZ been ahead of us and that it's over 4 yrs but how on earth can the likes of Hungary be ahead of the Cook Islands it's ridiculous

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: fun time frankie "I can understand NZ been ahead of us and that it's over 4 yrs but how on earth can the likes of Hungary be ahead of the Cook Islands it's ridiculous'"
They have probably not won a game since they beat Wales in 2013. They usually only play against the likes of Fiji and Samoa so probably get hammered most of the time.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: headhunter "They have probably not won a game since they beat Wales in 2013. They usually only play against the likes of Fiji and Samoa so probably get hammered most of the time.'"

Is there a site where all the fixtures for International RL in 2018 are available?

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Quote: headhunter "They have probably not won a game since they beat Wales in 2013. They usually only play against the likes of Fiji and Samoa so probably get hammered most of the time.'"

Even so I'd say the next ten teams in front of them will have hardly played an international between them and I would say the Cook Islands would hammer everyone of them

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: fun time frankie "Even so I'd say the next ten teams in front of them will have hardly played an international between them and I would say the Cook Islands would hammer everyone of them'"
I just checked and Hungary have played five matches in 2017, winning two. The Cook Islands probably would hammer them but that's not how rankings work as you know. South Africa would probably beat the majority of European nations ranked above them but they're down in 35th due to barely ever playing any international matches.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: headhunter "I just checked and Hungary have played five matches in 2017, winning two. The Cook Islands probably would hammer them but that's not how rankings work as you know. South Africa would probably beat the majority of European nations ranked above them but they're down in 35th due to barely ever playing any international matches.'"

South Africa need to be included in any European type competitions. Regular games v Ireland, Scotland, Wales and even France. They have a strong domestic set up and are deserving of as much help as we can give them.

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