As long as we accept about 50% of your argument has been proven wrong, hence you starting about half way in

no
and other clubs have been criticised, and lets be honest, the amount spent by HKA so far on the stadium isnt huge, and certainly not comparable to what other clubs are trying to spend.

these are two completely contradictory statements, yes
i certainly would have been more circumspect when renewing Jake Websters contract, when spending hundreds of thousands on Willie Mason or Blake Green,

really, Hudds have achieved more, increased their crowds by more, have more youth products in the first team, have fewer overseas players, have played in more playoffs, more finals, finished higher in the table. Saints have been massively more successful, have a much better youth development history, more british players, more youth players, better crowds all in a stadium which is of a similar level to craven park, they have also managed to get themselves a fantastic new stadium underway. Les Catalans didnt exist 8 years ago, they entered SL 5 years ago and have been much more succesful than Hull KR, similar crowds, more stadium improvement, more french players than Hull KR british, fewer overseas players.

and crowd improvement, and on the pitch, and stadium improvement, and by most reasonable measures.

i can see which players have been signed and which havent, considering Hull KR are spending more than a fair few clubs on the cap we can be sure that it isnt lack of money deciding who they are signing. Its a little silly to say HKA cant afford to sign players like Hardaker, Ambler, Pitts, Lunt, Kirmond, etc when they have players like Mason, Galea and Newton, not to mention the rumoured 100k going to Webster and rumours of a similar amount to Dobson.

So who's fault is the ' reason ' ?

depends which way you look at it, its either everyones or no-ones

So which way do you look at it ?

i see it as everyones, I dont disagree that SL could do more to improve the lower leagues, i also cant say that the lower leagues help themselves and there is the level of co-operation between the two that is needed.

I would like to see more money move from the top to the bottom of the professional/semi-pro structure, but that should only be on the basis that more players make the the opposite journey and the lower leagues provides a true pathway and proving ground for young players.

There seems to be an attitude from some of the major players in the lower league that it should be a competition to rather than a supporter of the game above it at both SL and often international level

No, as is often the case with replies to your posts it's probably best just to ignore the nonsense.



Ah, so real money actually spent is not comparable to pretend money not spent, got you.



I doubt Blake Green is getting hundreds of thousands, I'm damn sure he won't be getting asd much as the 32 year old journeyman prop Leeds have just signed. In any event, those represent future costs, not signing them would make no difference at all to what has been done.

Have they?

Ah, you only want to focus on onfield criteria as opposed to across the board changes at the club, not the point I was making and in any event, they have been in SL far longer than Rovers, you would expect them to be more advanced in some of those aspects (well I would but you probably wouldn't) what with having about a decades worth more Sky money than Rovers have had.



Are you really saying that Rovers should be on par with Saints in these aspects? Really? I think you're in a minority of one there Smokey. I'd cut back on the kippers mate.

Watch the bones in them kippers Smokey.

A feeder club comp then ?

aaahhh, ok we will pretend i didnt prove you wrong.

what led you to believe thats what i said?

clearly what you have done makes a difference to what you have done, it pretty much defines it.

in SL yes.
other than the off field criteria mentioned yes.