The point is you don’t know if they’ll ‘go well’ seen as you’ve barely watched them. For all you know, they could be just as bad as the players you’ve listed but you and many others have decided they are great signings purely because they are from PNG. Whether it’s a great achievement for them or not, they qualified from a weak group and people are massively exaggerating how good the players in that squad are.

Let's be honest a high percent of imports from down under and from the islands, nobody has watched more than a couple of games worth. These two players, if you actually watched their RL World Cup games gave there all, and in doing so made some great yards, like props should do. Like I said they've got something I've not seen before at widnes and it looks like this has been spotted by numerous, natural supporters too.

A short clip of Wellington at the World Cup, looks promising to me https://youtu.be/U6v8ooY6lKY

A short clip of Wellington at the World Cup, looks promising to me https://youtu.be/U6v8ooY6lKY

Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"A short clip of Wellington at the World Cup, looks promising to me https://youtu.be/U6v8ooY6lKY'" There is also one of Stanton Albert on the widnes instagram and FB. Excited to see the both of them play.

Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"A short clip of Wellington at the World Cup, looks promising to me https://youtu.be/U6v8ooY6lKY'" There is also one of Stanton Albert on the widnes instagram and FB. Excited to see the both of them play.

Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"A short clip of Wellington at the World Cup, looks promising to me https://youtu.be/U6v8ooY6lKY'" And? I can find you clips of players on the internet that make the most mundane player look like a world beater it's not hard it's called editing.

Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"A short clip of Wellington at the World Cup, looks promising to me https://youtu.be/U6v8ooY6lKY'" And? I can find you clips of players on the internet that make the most mundane player look like a world beater it's not hard it's called editing.

Indeed, a'la when we signed James Greene from Hull KR....the reality was he was a 'gentle giant' that couldn't get into a struggling Leigh side. His Youtube highlights compiled by his agent Craig Murdock, he looked like a 'world beater' !!

It's true. These two may well be good buys for Widnes and I don't wish to beltiile them but the truth is both are reserve/bush grade players of whom there is very little real supporting evidence.

This sudden obsessio with all theings PNG on this forum is frankly pathetic. Fiji lookedeven better than PNG but were roundly thumped by an Aussie team that then struggled to overcome England, Despite the myth peddled by arrogant Aussies, second grade NRL and Bush footy are not as good as SL in fact they are inferior in a very meaningfull way. These players are a massive riskas are all NRL/Australia based players coming to SL.

SL signings from Aus are going to get more hit and miss because we're having to go further down the food chain to sign anyone. Looking at who is usually available, its generally a choice between a washed up 'never was', someone who's career has stalled completely in their mid 20s, or someone untried. Going for the latter (which these PNG boys are, like Peteru at Leeds and even more so the kid Wigan signed) is likely to be boom or bust. But at least there is potential upside, compared to the other categories.

I think there is another catagory and a fairly usefull one but again a risk.

Pauli Pauli at Wakefield is an obvious one - he shouldnt be in SL and were it not for a seies of unfortunate events he wouldn't be.

He's joined us at least for now to rebuild his career. He knows one big SL season will put him back in the NRL shop window. This is something he wouldn't be able to do in Aus. Even if it doesn't he at least gets on the radar in SL, which may get him a long term deal at Wakefield or more likely in his case a gig at one of the richer SL clubs.

This is short term for Walefield but a fairly safe bet in that at least we have a motivated player with attributes that simpl aren't available domestically. It's not much of a risk if he remains injurt free as he will look good in SL, he has to but I can't see us building a team around him.

Whether this is good for the game probably not, is it good for Trinity, probably.

shannon wakeman was an unknown last season at hudds, had one of those youtube clips that made him look awesome, went ok for us.. expect more this season with a decent pre season

jake mamo, example of an nrl player who we are lucky to have for one more season as i expect him to go back to an nrl club , star quality but come here to experience another country whilst young and get himself back in the shop window.. (having his former coach helped too mind!)

Salford and Widnes will be in the bottom 4. At present I would have to expect we will be too until our performances manage to prove otherwise.

My main prediction is that we will start the season expecting the same format as the last few years but by the end, there will be no relegations but the league will increase by two teams - Toronto and one of Leigh, London or Toulouse.

I am tired of vastman's belittling of PNG players. They are all rough diamonds who will improve and shine under good coaching.

Jake Mamo is a star who will compete with David Mead for Man of Steel in 2018.

I would not call any png player has over the years we have had lots and most have been good players

I'm just tired of you and your claptrap to be honest.

Who?

Sir Stanley Gene for starters

That's the one and I agree a fantastic player but he hardly represents an avalanche of talent does he.

I think you lot had a half decent prop a few years back, Paul Aiton has done ok but he was an established NRL player before coming to SL. I'm struggling now.

Always thought Marcus Bai was a decent enough player as well.

Adrian Lam...

Your right really we're always associated with players from PNG but in reality only 3 have played for us we did sign another 2 but they didn't end up coming the prop your on about still plays for Doncaster I think at the age of 42

Wakefield in - Michael Monaghan - Assistant Coach.

True but Lamb moved to Queensland when he was 7, I think that has more to do with his success than him being from PNG.

Agreed

Makali Aizue