I wish we could turn the clock back. I wanted Ackers and Sneyd in that game.

We needed someone organising and in Welsby and Williams, we didn't get it.

Of the three, I believe Sneyd would have got us out of trouble and led us better around the pitch.

When you need a big play such as a 40/20 or a drop goal, I believe he would have done it.

On Wane, he made some odd choices and some odd changes. Why was Burgess off so quick and for so long?

Why did he bring MM back on at a crucial time when he was clearly under performing and knackered.

Watkins was not right from the start. I don't think he was fit to play personally.

I don't think Sneyd would have improved things, Williams and Welsby are pretty evasive if they get a little bit of time and space but they were playing on the back foot most of the time. With the exception of Burgess and Whitehead the rest of the pack were not giving us any momentum to go forward. Service to the kicker on the end of sets be it to Williams or Tomkins was pretty poor and it wouldn't have been any different with Sneyd, I think we got lost a couple of times and that last last 5th tackle pass went to our backrow forwards on 2 occasions, that was a mess.

Samoa saw that weak defensive right hand edge early in the game and got most of their points from that side. The whole England team just didn't raise the intensity of the game to match Samoa, Wane and the players knew what was coming but most of our experienced players didn't show much leadership and composure.

How many times did Williams get tackled with the ball late in the tackle count?

you would not have seen Sneyd getting tackled with the ball.

it's just my opinion.

England scored 26 points which should have been enough to win the game, we didn't defend well enough particularly on the edges. Sneyd would have made that worse. Sadly three or four players had their worse games of the competition.

If Steve McNamara can't come back to the England fold there is only one man for the job.

The master at getting the best out of a team thrown together on scarce resources especially in knock out football - he has the silverware to prove it.


...John Kear.

They should be looking to get prize him off Widnes and Wales.

Wales did overproduce based on their player pool, and they did look very well coached. Not sure he is the answer but he did better than Wane did.

The tries that hurt us were down the right hand side because a certain second rower was no where to be seen instead of helping his centre. Remind who that was again?

He did well last time he had the role.

Only thing you need to be reminded of is to take your meds

Where was the halfback?

Right where he should have been. Just had to defend against 2 men because of a second rower who kept on going missing

I hate to agree with Jean/Lebron/whoever but he's correct, as bad as Welsby & Watkins were they were not helped by Bateman not holding his position in the defensive line, I understand his desire to come inside and help out but you've got to be more disciplined, hold your line and trust the lads inside to do their job.
That said, Welsby really needs to look at himself for his lack of effort in and after the tackle for that second try. Very ordinary.

It was even more important for Bateman to defence support when Welsby picked up that hand injury around the 69th minute were he struggled a bit to catch and pass. Wane should have noted the requirement for that edge, but what did he do……bring McLlorum back on to 9 in the middle.

Welsby had his scan last week and avoided a fracture to the hand. I agree about Welsby ball watching at marker for that second Samoa try, pretty poor that.

Its a good job no other player gave a interception pass,dropped the ball from a kick,missed a tackle,gave a forward pass,knocked on etc etc.

Its a team game not a blame game,stop looking for faults we all saw some mistakes from different players from different teams not just the one.
Its so boring and tedious now,we lost,move on and look forward to a new season and hopefully more internationals.

Nah mate, I can accept mistakes from players, but IMO poor defensive discipline from one of your experienced players and poor effort play from any player deserves calling out.
They're still both top quality players but if England want to compete at the top level those are the areas they need to tidy up.