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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "Look old chap, if my team were relegated they'd just change the rules to get us back in again; from that perspective I honestly couldn't care who is up or down, it's utterly irrelevant (although signing past-it, broken-down, Wigan reject thugs is hardly an intimidating statement of intent).

But from the point of view of clubs which have served their time, done the right thing by the sport and the people in it and who offer the best for the game's wider future Leigh don't cut it.

I honestly don't know why you find this unsatisfactory - it's hardly a unique perspective within the sport where the prospect of Leigh returning to Super League and Derek Beaumont returning to boardrooms is not particularly welcome.'"


And we wonder why the sport is failing with this self ed approach. It's folk like you the sport doesn't need


You are the biggest $h!th0u$e in the game Mr x, and i claim my £5.

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "Sigh.
Another Leigh fan who doesn't like some simple home truths and fails to come up with any arguments in favour of their club's application.'"


We've only ever spent 2 seasons in Super League, and it will hardly be a disaster when we don't get voted in. But as long as Derek Beaumont is involved I'm pretty confident that we will be back in it for a 3rd time by gaining promotion on the playing field. I stated right from the outset that the 12th club should be Featherstone or London as they were the 2 clubs that lost out because of Toronto's promotion, and I haven't changed my opinion. But those 2 clubs like ours are not grabbing the attention of the media with their applications. Toulouse are winning this by a country mile, with Bradford in 2nd place due to their excellent SL history. That's my take on it all anyway (for what it's worth) Ghosty. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Cokey "...............and i claim my £5 '"


Showing your age Cokey, Ol' Pa Bongser used to tell me about Lobby Lud:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobby_Lud

I name you Fellow Lobby Gobbler and will claim whatever division it turns out to be. icon_thumb.gif
Quote: Cokey "...............and i claim my £5 '"


Showing your age Cokey, Ol' Pa Bongser used to tell me about Lobby Lud:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobby_Lud

I name you Fellow Lobby Gobbler and will claim whatever division it turns out to be. icon_thumb.gif


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Quote: Donnyman "It's time to sort this out. Let Leigh into Superleague to replace Catalans, and put Catalans in the Championship with Toulouse and they can have their French derbies.

Plus playing at that level Les Catalans can then put more French players than the odd couple into their team.

So....More French players can play in the teams at that level
Away fans will go to both derbies
French TV may pay to televise the clubs...........

A third French club could then become possible?'"

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Quote: Cokey "And we wonder why the sport is failing with this self ed approach. It's folk like you the sport doesn't need


You are the biggest $h!th0u$e in the game Mr x, and i claim my £5.'"
Literally stating facts gets you incredibly upset. Bizarre.

Hetherington doesn't need me to defend him but if you're comparing his achievements in and for the game with Beaumonts it's a tough sell for your man.

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "The only thing more preposterous than letting Leigh back into the top flight (with their erratic backer, history of welching on contracts and mostly empty stadium) would be to allow Bradford in. '"

Your cranium is but a vacant vessel Mr 99 !

If indeed you are a Leeds fan & not just some armchair RL supporter then you will remember how well Leigh were supported both at home & away from home &.you will try to erase the fact that Leigh ran Leeds to within one bad pass decision at the LSV. You might also ignore the fact that Leigh beat Wigan *scoring 50* & also beat Saints, Warrington & Hull F.C, those being regular top 5 SL Clubs !!! You might also try to rewrite history & claim "a sea of empty red seats" , how very Trump-esque of you. In fact as befits your agenda, you are hiding the real facts that Leigh averaged more than 6,500 at home & had 9,000 + against Saints, or that Leigh were easily the 8th best supported club in Super League & maybe one of the top 5 best supported away clubs.

Keep shouting it loudly & often enough & little Leigh might go away, or you could build a wall !!!

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "Literally stating facts gets you incredibly upset. Bizarre.

Hetherington doesn't need me to defend him but if you're comparing his achievements in and for the game with Beaumonts it's a tough sell for your man.'"


You haven't given any facts, so go away and stop being a pesky child.

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "Hard to see what Leigh would bring to the league TBH. Their previous appearances in SL have been nondescript to say the least.'"


It’s better to have a team from the heartlands in who spend full cap and have fantastic facilities, than a few in Yorkshire who really shouldn’t be in SL on facilities previously promised and a Lancashire club in financial mess that may not survive or must slash its spend

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Standing 3 scruffy sods on the RFL steps with Dels life story has prompted York to knock up another cheesy bid video. What’s the point of all this nonsense?

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Quote: wire-quin "Standing 3 scruffy sods on the RFL steps with Dels life story has prompted York to knock up another cheesy bid video. What’s the point of all this nonsense?'"


Finding a 12th club will make the sport more enemies than friends.
Setting club against club and pitting fans against fans, a spectacular own goal by the sport d040.gif

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Finding a 12th club will make the sport more enemies than friends.
Setting club against club and pitting fans against fans, a spectacular own goal by the sport
There has been and will continue to be lots of bitterness flying around about this process. I THINK there are three clubs in genuine contention for the slot and they are Leigh, Bradford and Toulouse. Nothing against the others in any way but I suspect they are the three likely candidates. Clearly Bradford would attract the greatest angst, whereas personally speaking either Toulouse or Leigh would leave me a bit "meh". You have to hope that after they are chosen we the fans get to see the workings out and who scored what. Not that I'm holding my breath.

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Quote: Pumpetypump "There has been and will continue to be lots of bitterness flying around about this process. I THINK there are three clubs in genuine contention for the slot and they are Leigh, Bradford and Toulouse. Nothing against the others in any way but I suspect they are the three likely candidates. Clearly Bradford would attract the greatest angst, whereas personally speaking either Toulouse or Leigh would leave me a bit "meh". You have to hope that after they are chosen we the fans get to see the workings out and who scored what. Not that I'm holding my breath.'"


It would be of more interest to see the full criteria and the weighting given to the different aspects of said criteria and of course, who set the rules and whether, despite the "independent panel", those people had any vested interest.
For starters, getting a tenant at Odsal would save the RFL some rent.
I suggested many pages back that the criteria and not the independent panel of "judges" would be the deciding factor and this looks to be how we are "progressing".

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Quote: wrencat1873 "It would be of more interest to see the full criteria and the weighting given to the different aspects of said criteria and of course, who set the rules and whether, despite the "independent panel", those people had any vested interest.
For starters, getting a tenant at Odsal would save the RFL some rent.
I suggested many pages back that the criteria and not the independent panel of "judges" would be the deciding factor and this looks to be how we are "progressing".'"

Indeed, open and honest appraisal against a set of published measures is the only way this isn't going to look like a fudge.

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Listen come on let’s be honest and seriously look at the facts and what’s happening here, and please please please this only my opinion FACT Leigh have assembled a team to play in superleague they have also got a fantastic stadium and a decent support base so putting them in wouldnt and shouldn’t be a issue, FACT bradford have got a team capable of winning hopefully more games than they will lose in the championship, they are currently using dewsburys facilities at there wonderful home,, yes no doubt about it they have a fan base most current superleague clubs are very envious of, but bradford are far far far away from being the force they once was, and on those facts I believe LEIGH are ready made to return to superleague

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Quote: Molsk111 "Listen come on let’s be honest and seriously look at the facts and what’s happening here, and please please please this only my opinion FACT Leigh have assembled a team to play in superleague they have also got a fantastic stadium and a decent support base so putting them in wouldnt and shouldn’t be a issue, FACT bradford have got a team capable of winning hopefully more games than they will lose in the championship, they are currently using dewsburys facilities at there wonderful home,, yes no doubt about it they have a fan base most current superleague clubs are very envious of, but bradford are far far far away from being the force they once was, and on those facts I believe LEIGH are ready made to return to superleague'"


You are of course basing that on the assumption that SL wants a 12th team remotely close to being competitive. The 12th team means it gets its full money quota from sky, that’s probably all there after

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