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Quote: Shifty Cat "I'm all for Feath having a crack at SL and admire how they go about their business but I'd be utterly stunned if they could get consistently anywhere near 7K, that would be about a third of the town which would be a massive ask.'"


Well then you clearly don't know your local area. Fev are de facto Pontefract's team and always have been.

Featherstone had a similar average than Wakefield when both were in the old first division - so I wouldn't look down your nose at them if I were you.

However one thing is for sure they will always out average London and will always produce good players.

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Quote: wire quin "Stand still and the game will follow Comet and HMV who have refused to move with the times.

As a fan of the Broncos there is no bigger critic than me of what is going on. As Tony Rea says the potential is massive- if London RL becomes big SL will be better for it. Fev, Fax will never get crowds of any note that will exceed the poxy numbers we get at the Stoop currently (at best 2-4k for the bigger games-don’t quote the Pie CC one off)- The M62 area is saturated you really don’t get it do you.'"


You cannot sell a game to a population that doesn't want it - what part of that don't you understand.

Be strong where you are strong and that is the M62 corridor like it or not.

You defeat your own argument with HMV as and example - that was a big, heavily branded, well publicised national chain - everything you want! However no customers, can you see a pattern here?

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HMV comet refused to expand into the Internet - now they have gone. Others stole the market

You cant tell me with the millions of people in London and SE there aren't 10K who want to watch RL- The potential is there if marketing is used. That is the current failure
Fev would get 2-4 k per game and you know it-That is the Max they could get. The target area is so small.

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Quote: vastman "You cannot sell a game to a population that doesn't want it - what part of that don't you understand.

Be strong where you are strong and that is the M62 corridor like it or not.

You defeat your own argument with HMV as and example - that was a big, heavily branded, well publicised national chain - everything you want! However no customers, can you see a pattern here?'"

This is among your dumbest posts yet, and there is some stiff competition. In the hope of helping you and putting a stop to your nonsense ill tell you why

firstly, the population of London arent one homogeneous entity that took a vote and decided it didnt want the game.

Secondly, RL barely registers, that is the issue, not that people have looked at it and not liked it, but that they dont pay any attention to it in the first place

Thirdly, there is nothing unique in the people of the m62 corridor that means they like RL but people from other areas wont. To suggest there is something inherent in people from certain places only liking certain things suggests a misunderstanding of so many basic tenents of humanity I am honestly astounded that it could be suggested by anyone who wasnt wearing pants on their head and a necklace made of their own teeth.

fourthly, you can sell things to people who think they dont want it. In fact thats what a salesperson does. Someone only gives things to people who already want it arent salespeople, they are order takers.

fifthly, HMV is an ideal example, a company which didnt move with the times, instead of changing its model when the world changed and leading in expanding their on-line sales and instead stuck to 'being strong where they are strong' then watched as the world passed them buy. The fact that the likes of play.com, lovefilm, netflix exist is testament to HMV's failing by being strong where they are strong. In years to come pupils of Business Studies will use HMV as a case study in a strong, successful business, with a recognised quality brand, dying because they focused on 'being strong where they are strong' and not adapting to an ever changing world.

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At last- sadly the flatcappers wont accept what you are saying

They live in a insular village mentality. Because they sell 10 cup cakes at the village fair they think they know sales like Phillip Green

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Quote: SmokeyTA "
fifthly, HMV is an ideal example, a company which didnt move with the times, instead of changing its model when the world changed and leading in expanding their on-line sales and instead stuck to 'being strong where they are strong' then watched as the world passed them buy. The fact that the likes of play.com, lovefilm, netflix exist is testament to HMV's failing by being strong where they are strong. In years to come pupils of Business Studies will use HMV as a case study in a strong, successful business, with a recognised quality brand, dying because they focused on 'being strong where they are strong' and not adapting to an ever changing world.'"


someone didn't do their research icon_lol.gif

HMV did move with the times, they sell online and they diversified their stock to sell clothing, electronics, books etc, but a company thats over reached expanding(there is a phrase some fans would find relevant icon_lol.gif ) by buying up every plot of land they could ala GAME, just can't compete with a company that has no bricks and mortar stores to pay rent on and no tax to pay.

unless of course by 'moving with the times' you meant sell all the shops and move to jersey d040.gif

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Quote: vastman "However one thing is for sure they will always out average London'"


let's face it, that's hardly the barometer for success in SL.

10,000 average attendances needed to Break even at about 20 notes a punter including ticket is about 2.6 million, +SKY money of 1.3....call it 4 million Turn over......London generate about 900k from revenues,1.3 from SKY and DH pumps about another 1.6 million a year with no hope of ever seeing a penny of it back...does the new "benefactor" at Fev have 8 million to invest over 5 years with the distinct possibility of never seeing a penny back?

Quote: vastman "You cannot sell a game to a population that doesn't want it - what part of that don't you understand.'"



London Broncos can be considered a failure only when an attempt has been made to market them poperly. Rather than using an insane standpoint over HMV and their refusal to see that the future was 100% on-line, why not try something a little "closer to home"

Melbourne Storm...bankrolled by the 50% owner of the NRL and Broadcast Partner, worse support than 11 AFL sides, a union franchise and 2 Wendyball teams in their own city....losing cash hand over fist and found guilty of cheating in an attempt to grow popularity..... are they a success or a failure in your eyes?

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Quote: robt90 "someone didn't do their research
That doesnt even address that the market is now moving from physical records to downloads and streaming, somewhere HMV doesnt have a meaningful presence. HMV stuck to doing what they were strong at, until they found that Amazon, Netflix and Itunes had created a different market, and what they were strong at was no longer relevant.

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The argument isnt London or Featherstone, it should be both, part of Londons failure to progress is down to the RFL, they should have recieved financial help to market themselves, similarily the RFLs clueless approach to dealings with the Championships is another failure

I'm not saying it is only their fault, it isnt, the clubs are all guilty of not understanding the need to change in how they operate

As regards Fevs ' investor ' , well its good to see a Championship Club attracting money, as long as they actually get it

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Some very uninformed and way off the mark posts on here about fev. Suggest you either find out facts or stop posting inane drivel.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "This is among your dumbest posts yet, and there is some stiff competition. In the hope of helping you and putting a stop to your nonsense ill tell you why

firstly, the population of London arent one homogeneous entity that took a vote and decided it didnt want the game.

Secondly, RL barely registers, that is the issue, not that people have looked at it and not liked it, but that they dont pay any attention to it in the first place

Thirdly, there is nothing unique in the people of the m62 corridor that means they like RL but people from other areas wont. To suggest there is something inherent in people from certain places only liking certain things suggests a misunderstanding of so many basic tenents of humanity I am honestly astounded that it could be suggested by anyone who wasnt wearing pants on their head and a necklace made of their own teeth.

fourthly, you can sell things to people who think they dont want it. In fact thats what a salesperson does. Someone only gives things to people who already want it arent salespeople, they are order takers.

fifthly, HMV is an ideal example, a company which didnt move with the times, instead of changing its model when the world changed and leading in expanding their on-line sales and instead stuck to 'being strong where they are strong' then watched as the world passed them buy. The fact that the likes of play.com, lovefilm, netflix exist is testament to HMV's failing by being strong where they are strong. In years to come pupils of Business Studies will use HMV as a case study in a strong, successful business, with a recognised quality brand, dying because they focused on 'being strong where they are strong' and not adapting to an ever changing world.'"


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Don't make me whoop you again - life is to short.

Nothing dumb in my post me old mucka - I'm right on this and always have been, you are wrong on almost everything regarding RL a sport and culture you clearly don't understand and never will.

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Quote: Starbug "The argument isnt London or Featherstone, it should be both, part of Londons failure to progress is down to the RFL, they should have recieved financial help to market themselves, similarily the RFLs clueless approach to dealings with the Championships is another failure.'"


London do get double the amount of other SL clubs to invest in junior development from the RFL. Why doesn't this get cut to 70 grand (same as everyone else) and the extra money ploughed into marketing ?

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You can always tell when Vastpants has lost the argument, he puts on his best fake Yorkshire accent and just blathers on about made up ‘wins’. Its sad really, like the old guy in the pub banging on about nonsense thinking he is telling it like it is whilst everyone else just humours him and walks away thinking what a rude idiotic dinosaur. Buying him a drink solely because whilst he is drinking his 'pant a mald owd cock' he is quite.

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Quote: Tigerade "London do get double the amount of other SL clubs to invest in junior development from the RFL. Why doesn't this get cut to 70 grand (same as everyone else) and the extra money ploughed into marketing ?'"

Because they cover a much larger geographical and more populous area.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "
Do you really believe that? When have Fev ever got close to 10k averages in their history?
And of course the people in the capital aren’t interested, the game as a whole ranges between doing nothing at all and poor efforts to get them interested. There are many amateur and youth players in London, this shows that there are people interested in the game, the fact they aren’t interested in the club is down to the club and their efforts.'"


I didn’t say they would get close, merely nearer, I can vaguely remember back in the day Featherstone achieved similar crowds to most other clubs, their fan base goes further than Purston.

Whilst I appreciate your frustration regarding drumming up support in the Capital I’m of the opinion that even Saatchi & Saatchi would fail to raise the profile. It’s not only West Yorkshire towns with a penchant for parochialism & many people from our glorious capital look on the north with distain & they sure as hell won’t go watch a ised version of the glorious game.

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